Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
List newbie here, I've been using Fedora and Kubuntu for about a year though. I live in Nesher, and attend the Technion University. Can I post in Hebrew? First, I'd like to note that the addresses http://www.linux.org.il/linux-il-faq.html which new list subscribers get gives a 404. I've STFW and cannot find how to do what I need. I want that CTRL-[HebrewLetter] give the same functionality that CTRL-[EnglishLetter] gives. For instance, CTRL-ב should be copy, because ב shares a key with C. I use the KDE desktop, but googling the subject for a few hours makes me think that it needs to be configured at the X level. I don't mind defining them one-by-one so long as I do it only once, and I can save the definitions file for use on other installations. I would of course publish it for everyone to use. As much as I will be flamed, I must note that MS products work this way. For instance, in Word on Windows CTRL-נ makes the text bold, because נ shares a key with B. Thanks from the head. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com
Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
On 26/12/06, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ctrl+c, ctrl+v problems are available in firefox, and this is a known bug. This is said that KDE does not have those problems, but I am pretty sure it's available on KDE as well. I will do my best in the next months to try and remove those problems from Qt4, and with some luck this will be OK for Qt4/KDE4. GTK users are doomed :) Thanks, Diego. I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying. Do you mean that you maintain the l18n of qt4, and that this issue will be resolved in KDE 4? If so then I will wait happily. And I cannot understand what you mean regarding Firefox. I don't see such a bug in Firefox bugzilla, and as I don't think that it's a Fx issue I would not file one. Also, is top-posting the norm here? Just need to know. Thank you very much. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
On 26/12/06, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to me an X issue, however it is strange that on my system I can not reproduce this bug. I use debian unstable with x.org, with gnome 2.14.2 the bug does not appear nither in firefox nor openoffice. Do you mean that on your system you can type Ctrl-ה and it pastes? Do you use KDE, Gnome, or something else? I also would like to solve this at the X level. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/
Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
On 26/12/06, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: I also would like to solve this at the X level. Then we will loose the option to use ctrl+ה as a real shortcut. Sorry, no. The bug is in (IMHO) hidden somewhere inside the xul engine's code. This is why we don't see it on pure Qt/KDE applications and pure GTK applications. I have absolutely no need for Ctrl-ה to be anything other than Paste, so I would actually like to loose the option. I'm not sure that this is a bug- I mean that I'm not sure than I'm not seeing expected behaviour. Is Ctrl-ה is KDE supposed to be Paste? (Like Windows and apparently Gnome do) Even if you would not want to add supprt for this to KDE trunk, how can i add it myself, for my own use? Thank you raba raba. Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/eng/movies.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bios.html
Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
On 26/12/06, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it does not work for you (it does work for me, sometimes), you can set ctrl+ה as a secondary shortcut. You will find the dialog for changing the shortcuts in the settings dialog on every KDE application. Actually, I did try that. In the dialog it is only seen Ctrl-square. And the new shortcut didn't work. Also, I don't want to change this for every application individually, although it may help me learn shortcuts that I did not know existed. Is there not a way to tell X that when he sees Ctrl-ה to send Ctrl-V instead? Thank you for your patience in helping me. This will help me be very more productive and is very important to me. Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/eng/dell.php http://mechonot.com
Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
On 27/12/06, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27/12/06, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems to me an X issue, however it is strange that on my system I can not reproduce this bug. I use debian unstable with x.org, with gnome 2.14.2 the bug does not appear nither in firefox nor openoffice. Did you try this with Firefox? I'm on similar system (testing (etch) instead of unstable, but otherwise identical) and it doesn't work for me with Firefox. To explain what I test: 1. Open gedit window (a classic GNOME/GTK application). 2. type some text in English. 3. mark and ctrl-c some text. 4. ctrl-v and you'll get the text. 5. switch to Hebrew keyboard 6. press ctrl-v and you'll still get another copy of the text ( i.e. paste will work) 7. switch to firefox (e.g. gmail message compose) 8. type ctrl-v (remember - still on Hebrew keyboard) - NO reaction. 9. switch to English keyboard 10. type ctrl-v - WILL get a copy of the text in firefox. Here is the Bugzilla entry for Firefox link: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69230 please vote for it. --Amos That's exactly the reason that I want to solve this problem in X and not at the application level. And what happens when I install a new app? I must spend hours remaking my shortcuts? There is a lot of good info in that bug, I'll read it more though later. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/linux-software.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/love.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
On 27/12/06, Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/27/06, Beni Cherniavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears that this is already partially fixed by the toolkits, most notably GTK. As Havoc Pennington already noted in the Mozilla bug 69230, Gtk has special code to handle it in the GtkKeyHash class: http://cvs.gnome.org/lxr/source/gtk+/gtk/gtkkeyhash.c xev surprises me. Perhaps it was never updated for xkv and uses the old API? xev shows you the events as they are. This is what it should do. This only goes to show you that GTK (and others) have a special layer of logic to handle this, i.e. this is not solved on the X11 level by toggling some X11 feature. I also would like to solve this at the X level. I think you could create a new XKB il mapping where holding Ctrl or Alt is a modifier that activates the 1st shift group. It shouldn't be too hard. It's funny how I never got to it. Ideally, X would provide both the physical key and translated key and the application would choose according to context. X keyboard event structs are not going to change any time soon. X11 does not provide you a standardized physical key (unlike, say, WM_KEYDOWN with its VKs): it gives you either the keycode as it's received from the underlying input driver (non-standardized) or the keysym (the key after going thru the full XKB pipeline). The keycodes are tied to your keyboard driver (keyboard, evdev...) and keyboard model (that's why you specify microsoft104 etc. in your XKB config), so you shouldn't be tempted to use them. There's another kind of code, key names; the XKB keyboard model does the key code - key name translation. Key names are universal but are not supplied in the X11 key event structs :( I have already researched into it during my rdesktop keyboard handling work. In rdesktop, we need to map whatever we receive from X11 into Windows VKs (which are MS defines covering the AT2 standard keyboard). If you wish to resolve a key without the XKB translation layer, you can: 1. Be like VMWare; require root, hook up to the physical keyboard (switch console into raw mode / use evdev). The Linux console guarantees standard AT2 scancodes and performs the necessary translations. 2. Force resolving the key in the Nth group, regardless of the current keyboard group (= language): /* Change the bits (bit 13 to 16 -- see XkbGroupForCoreState) denoting the group. This way, we avoid using XkbKeycodeToKeysym which requires emulation Xkb shift level logics. */ keyevent-state = ~(0x3 13); keyevent-state |= (g_force_xkb_group 0x3) 13; XLookupString(keyevent, str, sizeof(str), keysym, NULL); 3. Programatically request the XKB layout from the X server to get the keycode-keyname () mapping. (e.g. Run xkbcomp :0 - to see what I'm talking about). In any case, physical keys is not something you want *in this case*. Think of Dvorak keyboard layouts. I'm willing to forego the convinience of having the Dvorak layout working like qwerty for modifier purposes, if I could just get Hebrew layout working like qwerty for modifier purposes. But that seems to work for everybody but myself. I wonder if this is not just another stupidity of Kubuntu. _Lots_ of things are not as they should be in Kubuntu. I will reinstall Fedora when I get the chance, and if this issue is not resolved in Fedora then I'll pursue it further. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/427/rembrandts.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/xss.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
On 27/12/06, Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/27/06, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm willing to forego the convinience of having the Dvorak layout working like qwerty for modifier purposes Yeah, but we cannot fix a bug by introducing a bug for another user. To be precise, you may implement it into your private build of Mozilla but it won't be added to the official code. There's a right way to solve this bug, and I've just noted the discussed way was a wrong one. I wonder if this is not just another stupidity of Kubuntu. No, it's not. It's a Mozilla bug. I see that Mozilla has such a bug, but I'm not referring to Mozilla behaviour. I don't have the Hebrew shortcuts in any application. And yes, I'm looking to getting this working on my own box, not bug hunting. I'd love to solve bugs, but as you say I'll not inconvieniece others for my own sake. If there was I file that I could modify that would say Hey X: when you see Ctrl-ה please send Ctrl-V instead then I would be very happy. I'd modify it 20+ times, once for each key, and I'd be done forever, no matter what desktop or application I'm using. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/120/114/chapman_tracy/crossroads.php http://technology-sleuth.com/short_answer/what_is_hdtv.html
Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
On 30/12/06, Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also would like to solve this at the X level.
I think you could create a new XKB il mapping where holding Ctrl or Alt
is a modifier that activates the 1st shift group. It shouldn't be too hard.
It's funny how I never got to it.
Just for the record, I've tried today to define such an XKB keymap, without
sucess. I've tried both defining it in terms of compat mappings (but they
only allow you to map a key + a modifier to an action, not any key + a
modifier) and in terms of symbols mappings (by changing the mapping of,
say, LALT to map to actions[Group1] = { SetGroup(1), SetGroup(1) ]).
So far, it looks like this is a problem that have to be solved in each and
every X client (on the toolkit level, obviously).
Thanks for the effort. Do you have any links for information on how to
make such a keymap for KDE? I've been googling this, and I cannot find
anything relevant.
Dotan Cohen
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Re: Keyboard shortcuts with Hebrew letters
On 30/12/06, Ilya Konstantinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/30/06, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the effort. Do you have any links for information on how to make such a keymap for KDE? I've been googling this, and I cannot find anything relevant. There's nothing KDE-specific about XKB keymaps. There are also no GUI tools to produce them. For information about the XKB layouts concepts and syntax (which is a pretty complicated subject), see Ivan Pascal's reference on the subject: http://pascal.tsu.ru/en/xkb/ Thanks for that. I'll spend some quality time with that site, and see what I come up with. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/171/eagle-eye_cherry.php http://dagot.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hebrew .doc documents with justified text
When I open Hebrew .doc documents sent to me that have the text justified (very often), the right and left portions of lines are over the margin border and are therefore unreadable. I am not certain if this is the case with English documents or not. If I hightlight all and change to centered text, then I can read it without problem. I'm on Kubunut linux with a Hebrew UTF-8 local, and OOo is in English. Note that I CC'ed the Open Office list, though I don't expect much help there. Thanks from the head. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/wikipedia.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/635/white_zombie.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hebrew .doc documents with justified text
On 09/01/07, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i assume you have a link to that bug...? (just something i read on forums... good to know that it's true ) ביום שלישי 09 ינואר 2007, 20:11, כתבת: On 09/01/07, Diego Iastrubni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OOo has a bug regarding the import of doc files. That's all. I should have checked bugzilla first. Sorry. No, I haven't filed it yet, and it doesn't seem to have ever been filed. Should I forego the English OOo bugzilla and file it in the Hebrew openoffice.org.il bugzilla? Or both? I file bugs for Firefox, KDE, Gnome, Fedora, Ubuntu, and a few others, but I've never filed for OOo and I don't know what they're policies are. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/97/321/madonna/the_immaculate_collection.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/skype.html
Re: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone
On 13/01/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-01-13 at 16:25 +0200, Shlomi Fish wrote: Amarok is an excellent KDE-based audio player and now it has a Gtk+-based clone called Exaile. People who are using GNOME, Xfce, etc. may wish to check out Exaile. From looking at the project page and the software itself, I get the impression that they're aiming for an Amarok copy. Now generally I don't appreciate software that has no aspirations other then to copy something else, especially free software, and especially as it appears that the only reason they're doing this is because they're not happy with Amarok's developers choice of toolkit. Also after testing the software I say that I'm not really impressed with its usability or performance. None the less, the project is in a very early stage - they released version 0.2.8 while Amarok is in version 1.4.4, so I'm going to reserve further judgement until a later date when they release something a little more mature. While in principle I do agree with you, as a KDE user I'm a bit frustrated with the choice of GTK+ toolkit for OpenOffice and Firefox. I'd love nothing more than to have these two apps integrated better with KDE. Also, the wonderful program F-Spot has me installing half of Gnome. KDE has no photo-manager that is so good as F-Spot, and I would very much like to see someone port it to KDE and Qt. That must be the case with AmaroK- Gnome until now had nothing so good. And to save themselves from installing KDE libraries just to use a music manager, they simply copied the KDE one. Nothing wrong with that. Who's benifiting from all this? AMD and Intel. We must have powerful hardware to run two windows managers, to use the best programs from each. Bassa for us. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://lyricslist.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone
On 14/01/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2007-01-14 at 10:30 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Also, the wonderful program F-Spot has me installing half of Gnome. KDE has no photo-manager that is so good as F-Spot, and I would very much like to see someone port it to KDE and Qt. You're not serious, are you ? You must be joking. KDE only has the best photo manager ever ? Much before GNOME had F-Spot, which is nice but like Exaile offers nothing but rehashed ideas from other photo managers. Do try Digikam. I have. I don't like Digikam because: - I cannot click on a photo to see it and stay within the interface. It opens a second interface that must be switched back and forth between it and the main browser interface. - I cannot see all my pictures at once. While I do prefer to have the pictures organized by date in folders on disk, I want my photo managment app to show me all my photos, until I start clicking tags to narrow down which picture I want to see. - Digikam will not store metadata in the photos themselves. And there is not way for me to import the metadata that I currently have in my pictures (over 8000 pictures) into Digikam. The metadata is in both IPTC and XMP formats (If Digikam could read either one I'd be happy). That must be the case with AmaroK- Gnome until now had nothing so good. That is also not correct - GNOME users have Banshee, which is a very good media player, has interesting and useful UI and isn't an Amarok rip-off in any significant way (that is - not any more then any media player is a rip-off of winamp). Yes, Banshee is a good media player. I agree. And to save themselves from installing KDE libraries just to use a music manager, they simply copied the KDE one. Nothing wrong with that. Yes it is - as both Qt and GTK+ are in LSB, and kdelibs /is/ huge - but is the only other dependency of Amarok - there really is no reason not to install Amarok. Granted, there is a problem that KDE applications on GNOME don't look native - the same problem the other way around, but KDE folks solved it by building a GTK+ theme that renders using Qt. I use that theme for Firefox and OpenOffice. It is quite buggy (no icons nor menus in OOo, sometimes). I don't buy the bloatware argument because kdelibs isn't too big for modern computers - its just a few dozens of megabytes and all the gnome python libraries that you need to install to get all these panel applets is bigger then that. And I don't buy the look-n-feel argument, because in that case all the GNOME folks have to do is to write a Qt theme that renders using GTK+, which - trust me on this - is tons easier then rewriting all the applications KDE offers from scratch. Yes, that would be easier to start. But to debugg in all the applications- no thanks. I can't help but thinking - and its aided by a lot of writing on planet GNOME - that some people in the GNOME community simply has a bias against KDE - they can't stand anything written in Qt (or C++, or something) running on their desktop, and instead of working towards full interoperability, they work towards segregation by trying to offer alternatives (i.e. - eliminate) to any KDE application that is popular. And a lot of people in the Linux community have a bias against Windows - they can't stand anything written in .NET (or VB, or something). To each his own. Segregation is what will keep [KDE|Gnome] users safe when the other gets hit with the first linux virus. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux.html http://hohah.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Convince me to switch to Digikam (Was: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone)
On 15/01/07, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday, 14 בJanuary 2007 10:30, Dotan Cohen wrote: ...[ many valid observations about KDE/Gnome, snipped ] ... Also, the wonderful program F-Spot has me installing half of Gnome. KDE has no photo-manager that is so good as F-Spot, You must be kidding. F-Spot is really nice, but has a way to go until it comes close to digikam. Not only in speed (I just imported ~2500 photos to F-Spot and It took about an order of magnitude longer than the same in digikam), but also in features. Just a small random sample: The import feature and scrolling photos is _very_ slow in F-Spot, I do agree. The import slowness I can live with, and the scroll slowness I put up with because I understand that it is beta and I believe that the developers are working on it. F-Spot has a very active, useful developer community, who have helped me out personally many many times. - If your camera store orientation info in the photo (mine do), you can autorotate as many photos as you like in one operation (each would be adjusted to its correct orientation). BTW, even if you don't touch the photos themselves (e.g: they are on a cdrom), they are still *displayed* by default with correct orientation (of course you can manually rotate them as F-Spot does). Nice, but not a deal-maker for me. - Tons of plugins to have all the quick and dirty ops (red-eye-reduction, etc.) at your fingertips. Of course running any program like gimp, F-Spot, etc is just a right click away as in F-Spot. Nice, but not a deal-maker for me. - You can view by Folders, Tags, Dates like in F-Spot, but when you search your searches are saved as virtual folders. BTW, there is quick search (by metadata strings) and advanced search when you can combine multiple conditions on metadata, date-ranges and albums. Tell me, how an I get an integrated user interface like in F-Spot? One window, in which the browse vieew is replaced by a photo that is [(double)?] clicked? - Unlike F-Spot, you have more control on your display. E.g: I always show the tag names on my thumbnails (but you may choose not to do it...) I don't want anything there other than pics! - Many more export options, most implemented as plugins of course (calendar, mpeg movie, Gallery, local html gallery). Don't need it. I publish photos using my own php scripts. - Support for a lot more metadata items (e.g: import GPS data). Can I search by Camera model? That is important to me. Ok, that's enough. I hope I didn't start a new application war. My post was directed to people who didn't know digikam and may think there is only one good player in the field. No war, but no hudna either. I'm willing to switch, but I'd like to know that Digikam meets my needs. Also, in what format does it store the tags? I'll need to import over 200 different tags on over 8000 pictures. I don't mind doing it with sqlite, but I need to know that it can be done. The tags are in utf-8 Hebrew. Anyone who knows both programs (or others) has probably already made their own choice based on their personal taste. On taste and smell I won't arguee with you, but although I've tried Digikam I found that it won't perform as I like. Or can it? (as I have described?) Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com http:/what-is-what.com
Re: Convince me to switch to Digikam (Was: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone)
Thanks, Amos. I'm giving Digikam every opourtunity for fit our needs, but it won't cooperate. I'd love to get rid of the only Gnome app on my system. (although I will miss the F-Spot mailing list- the developers have really helped me out there) I'm trying to install the latest tarball (0.9.0) however it compalins that it needs libkipi (installed) and exiv2 (installed). So my experience is on 0.8.2 which is the latest available for Kubuntu/Debian. Tell me, how an I get an integrated user interface like in F-Spot? One window, in which the browse vieew is replaced by a photo that is [(double)?] clicked? I couldn't find how to customize the mouse but F3 will view the current image in the current window, and ALT-Right/ALT-Left will move the current image forward and backward. This is with 0.9.0-beta3 (Debian Etch). Not with my version. We'll see if I can get 0.9.0 installed, though the 0.9.0 features page doesn't make any mention of change in this regard. Other features do interest me, howeve, especially the IPTC metadata readability. Don't need it. I publish photos using my own php scripts. Let me guess - maybe because F-spot didn't provide this for you? Maybe you can do this with F-Spot too but with Digikam you can integrate your scripts as Kipi plugins so you can control the interactivelly through the Digikam interface (and make the useful to others so you can benefit from the exposure). No, it's a very specialized set of scripts. As I'm not much of a programmer (I only know a bit of php and C and enough SQL to peice things together) I wouldn't release the code. F-Spot has great export options, but I use my own. - Support for a lot more metadata items (e.g: import GPS data). Can I search by Camera model? That is important to me. I'd expect you can. I'm pretty sure you can search on anything in the EXIF data. I'll have to wait 'till 0.9.0 for that, I suppose. The changelog says that it will work. Then just install it and start playing. That's what I've done a few times. the tags? I'll need to import over 200 different tags on over 8000 It uses Sqlite and I think the schema is documented so you can do whatever you like with the database. Might not even need it if it reads the IPTC data. Haven't tried Hebrew tags but maybe there were issues with UTF-8. Try digging the digikam users mailing list archives. I already have- it does work. Thanks. As soon as I've got 0.9.0 installed I'll write again on the subject. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/text_editor.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/648/the.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convince me to switch to Digikam (Was: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone)
On 15/01/07, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: I'm trying to install the latest tarball (0.9.0) however it compalins that it needs libkipi (installed) and exiv2 (installed). So my experience is on 0.8.2 which is the latest available for Kubuntu/Debian. Do you have the dev versions of the libraries installed? apt-get install libkipi0-dev libexiv2-dev Shachar Thanks, I did install libkipi0-dev and libexiv2-dev via apt-get. However, it still complains about exiv2: config.status: config.h is unchanged config.status: executing depfiles commands -- digiKam configure results --- -- sqlite3 found.. YES -- libgphoto2 found... YES -- libkipi found.. YES -- libtiff found.. YES -- libpng found... YES -- lcms found. YES -- Exiv2 library found NO digiKam needs Exiv2 library. You need to install Exiv2 first Exiv2 website is at http://www.exiv2.org I don't want to install exiv2 via the website's tarball, however, and apt-get thinks that it's already installed. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/computer.html http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/how_much_memory_will_i_need_for_my_digital_camera.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux on Windows
On 15/01/07, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Windows Machine I would like to install Linux over that. What are my options? Does VMware have a free (and unlimited in time) version that I can use to install Linux on it? Is there any other solution? VMWare Player is free as in beer. I use it to run WindowsXP on Fedora, but you can do it the other way around. You can also use a LiveCD- the Ubunut install disk runs as a LiveCD. That's probably better than using virtualization, but beware that the machine performs much slower than a regular install. What do you want to test in Linux? Just to get a general feel for it? Or do you want to test certain apps, internet connectivity, documents? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/277/jefferson_starship.html http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/what_is_a_cellphone.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convince me to switch to Digikam (Was: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone)
On 15/01/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16/01/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, I did install libkipi0-dev and libexiv2-dev via apt-get. However, it still complains about exiv2: config.status: config.h is unchanged config.status: executing depfiles commands On Etch (testing) they have just downgraded from 0.9.x back to 0.8.x with a comment to the effect that required exiv upgrade isn't going to happen in Etch, to have 0.9 track 'experimental'. I didn't manage to pin Digikam alone to 'experimental' so for now I'm just careful not to downgrade my 0.9 on Etch. (if anyone knows how to achieve this while taking everything else from Etch I'd be grateful to hear). Maybe you can download the version I have from http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/digikam.html or maybe I can dpkg-repack it for you... Thanks. Why doesn't Google know about that page? The latest they seem to have available for download is 0.8.2-3. 0.9.x are in experimental and I don't see how to get at them. If you could repackage your 0.9 I'd love to give it a spin. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/48/402/pink_floyd/pulse.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/voip.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convince me to switch to Digikam (Was: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone)
On 16/01/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15/01/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks. Why doesn't Google know about that page? The latest they seem robots.txt, or that google-invented web site map? Apparently they're using the former and not the later! to have available for download is 0.8.2-3. 0.9.x are in experimental and I don't see how to get at them. If you could repackage your 0.9 I'd love to give it a spin. A link is on the way in private mail. My reply regarding such is in private email as well. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/48/402/pink_floyd/pulse.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/voip.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux on Windows
On 16/01/07, Amit Aronovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, seems that there's an alpha version of QEMU for windows (don't know about it's usability status). Works great. I've got it running DSL in a windows on any winbox I sit down to. It's not too slow, and network connections, printers, USB are are recognised. I downloaded it from some site that pushes it as a safe way to browse the web in Windows: it leaves no traces of the activity on the winbox. It is also set up to browse via a proxy though I don't use that feature. Google those features, as I can't find the site right now. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ubuntu.html http://gmail-com.com/howto/filters.php = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux on Windows
On 16/01/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2007 at 10:50:10AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 16/01/07, Amit Aronovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, seems that there's an alpha version of QEMU for windows (don't know about it's usability status). Works great. I've got it running DSL in a windows on any winbox I sit down to. It's not too slow, and network connections, printers, USB are are recognised. I was using it to run Linux on an emulated handheld device that I was working on. It ran at about 20% of the CPU speed, which was not too bad. For example, a 1gHz PIII ran it equivalent to a 200mHz PI. A 3.2 gHz PIV or equivalent would run fast enough to watch most low res videos. I should be noted that while Windows=2000 will not run on anything less powerful than 533 mHz PIII, Linux runs fine on older/ outdated hardware. So 200 mHz is enough. You can also understand how much better Linux runs on borderline hardware than Windows. That's something to consider when one thinks that he needs to purchase a new computer to run a 'better' operating system. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_are_the_advantages_of_lcd_monitors.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/285/journey.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Convince me to switch to Digikam (Was: Exaile - a Gtk+-based Amarok Clone)
Allright, I've got 0.9.0 installed! Needed to lay down some tarballs, but that's fine. Here are my comments, to those who are interested in them. Some of them will turn into threads on the digikam list, I'm sure :) Hebrew interface! Yay! Digikam doesn't seem to be much faster than F-Spot in scrolling through the photos. It also has quite a bit of lag. Even after rebuilding all the thumbnails, I can see them slowly filling up the screen (takes about 15 seconds) while scrolling pages. Also, switching to the one picture view displays the previous picture shown for a second or two. I can get used to it, but it is rather annoying. My IPTC data is shown only as X-box-X in Metadata-IPTC-Contact. That's rather usless as it's not assigned a tag. I'll take that issue up on the DigiKam list. Clicking on an image opens the editor, not the single-picture view. That's going to drive the wife nuts, she actually uses the mouse. As is typical of KDE, the interface is horrible cluttered. Buttons on the left, buttons on the right, buttons above. Sidebar on the right AND on the left! KDE 4 is supposed to address this, we'll see. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/source.php http://laurieotto.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moodle in hebrew
On 16/01/07, Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Micha Silver wrote: Just installed moodle with the hebrew language pack (from the moodle site). I see that the RTL is not perfect and some strings are not translated yet. Is anyone still working on this? (I seem to remember improving the translation was a candidate for the Hamakor prize some years ago). A Moddle translation project asked for and got a grant from ISOC and then canceled partcipation for undisclosed reasons. An earlier non complete translation is what you've been using. Gilad The Technion uses moodle in Hebrew. I don't remember seeing any untranslated strings in there. You want me to ask around? Maybe the Technion finished the translation for their own use and have not published it. Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/howto/netscape_bat_email.php http://lahes.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internet speed and page loading problems ?
On 18/01/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 10:32:39AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: Until the deal is approved (and, probably, for some time after it's approved) you see absolutely no change in anything regarding service from the company. That's an interesting point, but IMHO completely wrong. You are assuming that announcing the deal had no effect on ActCom. For example, I will NEVER purchase anything that comes from BEZEQ International (BBL). If they become the ONLY company selling Internet access in the country, I'll live without it. Since my yearly contract with HOT and Netvision is up this month, and my connection has deteriorated in terms of staying up, from one failure every other month, to three or four a week, I'm looking for alternatives. Now that the possibility exists that if I sign up with ActCom, I'll end up with BBL, they are no longer under consideration. While I doubt that most people don't feel as strongly as I do, there are lots of people out there who won't use their services. If they were considering a new ISP, they won't consider ActCom, if they were ActCom customers and their contract is up, they will change ISPs. This will cause ActCom's income to go down, which means they will have to reduce their expenses. One thing you don't want to do is to have lower profits when you are trying to sell your company. Since most people have no idea of what performance they get, or are supposed to get, the first thing ActCom will do is to reduce the international bandwidth they buy. This has probably started already, and will continue. Geoff. I've actually been very happy with Actcom. I've got my own static IP address and a 1.5 MB line for 40 shaH a month. Before I had a router, they help me set up scripts to connect me to the 'net. If Bezek buys them I'll stay so long as it's Actcom representatives that I deal with and not Bezek idiots. However, the day I call them and someone answers the phone with the word Bezek in their mouth, I'm gone. That said, I've noticed a slowdown of my net access over the past few weeks. I thought that it was entrophy building up in my distro, and that the time had come to reinstall. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/627/ziro.html http://slashedot.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why are GNOME applications (and applets) take so much [EMAIL PROTECTED] memory ?
On 16/01/07, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Oded, people... Few weeks ago, I worked temporarily at a small company, and they gave me a PC which was with Athlon XP (if I recall it was 1.6 Ghz or something) with 756MB RAM to work with. So, I installed CentOS 4.4, upgraded my KDE 3.5.5, and upgraded OpenOffice to the latest one, and used FireFox 2 for browsing. I started to work. I started to use OpenOffice to write a small spreadshot. BOY was it slow as hell! it was so slow that I was almost sure I had some Pentium 2 300Mhz processor. Switching apps (using ALT TAB) was a PITA. I have not been running many applications: Twinkle, Kopete, FireFox, KMail, OO, and Konsole. Nothing more. The machine was crawling. I took Office 2003 from the Windows team, installed Crossover 6 (the latest version finally solves the flickering flash bug), and started to use Office 2003. Finally I could write somthing without the machine being crawling, but opening few more tabs in FF 2, and the machine crawled again.. My opinion: Some serious debate needs to be occured, whether in slashdor or the mailing lists, some sort of shake up in the GNOME/KDE development community, to remind them that this situation cannot be continue, and some diet is required. I heard my advocates who recommend people to switch to Linux and use KDE or GNOME with 256MB RAM. To them I can say HA HA! go ahead, fire the latest GNOME and open 2-3 apps and give the machine a minute or so, it will be almost unresponsive. It's better in KDE but not by much. If someone wants something speedy, they should look at using FVWM, flux box or any other lite window manager and use some independent applications. I used FVWM with Kopete and KMAIL and Konqueror, and the results were pretty good on a 192MB machine. I tried to switch to GNOME (yes, stupid decision) and I had to reset the machine in order to get my control back. Today, everyone is laughing/amazed by the hardware requirement of Windows VISTA (specially with Aero Glass interface). Well, my friends, at this pace, GNOME (and maybe even KDE) is going at this way, with all the latest GLX eye-candy, and the hefty memory requirements. I do not know the future, but I do remember KDE usage only few years ago with a Pentium 4 1.7Ghz, 512MB RAM, and it was very usable and enjoyable. Thanks, Hetz KDE is still very usable, if you use it. Instead of FIrefox, use Konqueror. Instead of OpenOffice, use KOffice. Instead of Thunderbird, use Kmail. You'll find that it'll run just fine on a machine with 128MB RAM, even though the KDE developers recommend 192MB. And don't runn Apache, Bind, SSH, or other daemeons in the background if you don't need them. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/149/377/nine_inch_nails/the_fragile_right.html http://fedorafaqs.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
On 16/01/07, Jonathan Ben Avraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Amichai, IMHO what we have to offer to make this happen is to pool our collective intelligence (or lack thereof) to start writing public policy. The market will not correct itself in the short run because of the cost benefit factors that the spokesperson from the TA municipality so correctly cites. So the only alternative is to lobby for a public policy on open source, and we are the only people who can write that policy. In order for the policy to have a chance of being accepted it probably has to be drafted as a requirement to follow international standards (ODT, W3C HTML, etc..) in order to ensure equal access to all communities or some such politically fashionable language. The place to apply this policy is probably with the Bank of Israel, the Ministry of Finance, and finally the Knesset itself. Our ally in this is probably ISOC-IL and perhaps a few oddball academics. If any of you are interested in puting some time and effor into this please contact me off list. - yba I'm replying on-list because I've got the time and resources to be active online, but not in person. I'm a student (like Amichai and I'm certain others) and that means that I've no free time. But if I can use products or services that promote FLOSS, then I'm all for it. Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/emulators.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/foss_floss_software.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Internet speed and page loading problems ?
On 18/01/07, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 18 בJanuary 2007 16:46, Dotan Cohen wrote: That said, I've noticed a slowdown of my net access over the past few weeks. I thought that it was entrophy building up in my distro, and that the time had come to reinstall. Care to explain? How exactly does entropy build up in your distro? Disk fragmentation I can understand, but a re-installation that would accelerate your packets is some new theory I haven't heard of. I was thinking along the lines of log files filling up and dns cache files filling up. What do I know about that stuff? :) But until I prove otherwise, I always assume that the fault lies with myself and my system rather than the providers of services. Certainly there are problems that I don't know about that could cause my net access to appear slower with time. Even something as simple as adding too many Firefox extensions can have that effect. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ram.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/664/p-funk.html
Re: Internet speed and page loading problems ?
On 19/01/07, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, 19 בJanuary 2007 00:22, Dotan Cohen wrote: I was thinking along the lines of log files filling up logrotate? and dns cache files filling up. What dns cache files? AFAIK, named(8) has a memory cache only. [even if it did have disk cache, isn't simpler to trim cache files than reinstall your operating system :-O I'm not so good at CS- non of us Mechanical ENgineering types are :) I just figured that if things were slowing down the likelyhood of the problem being on my end of the cable was greater. Now let's assume that I'm wrong. So I'll call Actocom and tell them: Hi Actom, Dotan speaking. I have no benchmark figures other than Shimi's speed test to go by, but I think that my net connection is slower than usual. Actually, Shimi's says that it's the same as it always was. I think that I'm experiencing latency. Please fix And Alex (or Sergei, or Boris) will say: Everything is fine with our systems, must be something with your computer And being how I know not so much about networks, and therefore can bring no smart argument, I'll say OK, thanks. So, what CAN I tell them? I need a smart argument, not a well I think it's slower argument. Better yet, what can I check to PROVE that there is a problem on their end? Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_hdtv.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/black_light.html
Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?
On 21/01/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2007, Diego Iastrubni wrote about Re: How Can We Help to Make this Happen?: The hebrew spelling is tied up with the Hebrew UI? Can't I have it with some other language...? Like English? No, it is definitely not tied to the Hebrew UI. I'm not sure what exactly that Hebrew language pack contains, but nothing in the UI appears to change. Perhaps it gives you later an option to choose the Hebrew UI, but I don't know how, and I never tried that. I don't know whether other distributions besides Fedora have such a OpenOffice language packs, but if they don't (they should...), you still have the option to use OpenOffice to download the Hebrew dictionary for you (a single user) automatically, through its menus (don't ask me how - I don't rember the exact menu, try it yourself if you're interested. The only time that I've ever seen OOo with a Hebrew interface was today when I installed FC6 with the Distro's Hebrew language pack. Every time that I've selected Hebrew from the options I've wound up with a half-German half-English interface. And this Hebrew build of OOo has the wizard to install dictionaries removed and no Hebrew dictionary. In any case, the one time that I tried to file a bug in OOo I discovered that there is a seperate Hebrew bugzilla for it. Not an interface but a whole seperate bugzilla. I didn't check to see if it deals only with Hebrew-related issues as I didn't file the bug in the end. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/skype.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/100/321/madonna/something_to_remember.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swiftfox for Duo Core 2
On 21/01/07, Moshe Gorohovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean Intel Core Duo, you should use Pentium M. Actually, it is Prescott as Muli had hinted. I found a post on the Swiftfox forums where the guy who builds them suggested the prescott build. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/463/sting.html http://kitha.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swiftfox for Duo Core 2
On 22/01/07, Moshe Gorohovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, According to http://mikeshardware.co.uk/CPURoadmap.htm, Pentium M is a successor to Prescott on mobile platforms. Core Duo is a successor to Pentium M. Core Duo 2 is a successor to Core Duo. Thanks. That's an interesting page. What to choose for gcc's -march flag on Core Duo 2 ? Uh, badababa gagga. I'l let the Swiftfox developer handle that. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/drm.html http://dramatherapy.info = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A new approach to illegal downloads
On 18/01/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Excellent novel Open Source type approach to a serious problem from EA. I hope that the idiots who push DRM and 'media control' get the point and take the hint: http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/17/yourmoney/media.php Peter P. I don't think that's exactly open source. But it is innovative. I'm not even a gamer, but I'd try the game for free. It might open them up a whole new marker of otherwise-non-gamers. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/654/frost.html http://fedoratricks.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: version control wiki
On 24/01/07, Nadav Har'El [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 24, 2007, Shahar Dag wrote about version control wiki: 1.. Can you recommend a good implementation of version control wiki (we would like to use free software) I am not aware of a version control + wiki combination (but maybe someone can correct me?), so you will have to choose each one separately. For version control, I would recommend Subversion. It is very similar in its basic philosophy to CVS, but it's simply better in many ways (I'm sure that Google can return heaps of comparisons of Subversion to every other version control system under the sun). For Wiki, I don't have any experiance of actually *installing* such a system, but from a user's perspective, I'd recommend MediaWiki, because it has the most familar syntax (at least to the hundreds of thousands of people which contribute to Wikipedia). I agree on both counts. While I personally prefer CVS because I am familiar with it, I understand that those in the know prefer subversion. Also, the only wiki I'd recommend is MediaWiki. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/malware.html http://dugry.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting into linux from windows98
On 28/01/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a direct solution ;-) ;-) ;-) http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ origin: /. Peter That site downlaods an exe. What is in it? Debian as a windows executable? Somehow I don't think so. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/open_office.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/398/pet_shop_boys.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting into linux from windows98
From the site: ubuntu.img will be the ubuntu hard drive image. It will be used as a loopmounted EXT3 filesystem, and will be placed in the C:\ubuntu directory. Is that what we've come to? Running a Debian spinoff on NTFS? Amazing indeed. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/open_office.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/398/pet_shop_boys.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting into linux from windows98
On 28/01/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't tried it myself (no MS-Windows desktop around to try it on), but I doubt it actually requires NTFS. From reading the info on the Ubunto version (can't get to the info on the debian version, the site was /.ed), it simply uses an image file with everything loopmounted. So you can host the same file on MS-Windows 98, you'd just need some way to trigger the bootloading, which grub4dos(grub4dos.sf.net) seems, on the face of it, capable of doing for MS-Windows 98 - even if the Debian installer might not support anything other then NTLDR to hook it to. I know what a loop is, and I know what the mount command does. Please explain in simple Hebrew what exactly is loopmounting. Oxford knows not. Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/technical_answer/how_much_memory_will_i_need_for_my_digital_camera.html http://fedorafaqs.org = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting into linux from windows98
On 28/01/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote:
I know what a loop is, and I know what the mount command does. Please
explain in simple Hebrew what exactly is loopmounting. Oxford knows
not.
Dotan, you don't know what a loop is, since you're asking. Loop mounting
mounts a file as a partition. And Oxford is hardly the place to look up
geek terms or the unacademic answers that might occur if you do not
rtf{aq,m}. Loop has been around for long enough that asking what it is
while saying that one knows what it is can cause unexpected answers to
come up. The mount manual would be a good start for rtf{aq,m}.
Peter
Thanks Peter. I was able to guess what it was, but I wanted to make
the point that the OS would still be running on top of NTFS. Oded
mentioned that it doesn't require NTFS. But installing it on NTFS,
even with a loopmounted ext3 filesystem, is still installing on NTFS.
Dotan Cohen
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Re: booting into linux from windows98
On 28/01/07, Beni Cherniavsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/28/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 28 Jan 2007, Dotan Cohen wrote: Is that what we've come to? Running a Debian spinoff on NTFS? Amazing indeed. Next thing you'll know will be Linux crashing because of NTFS and users claiming 'Linux is as unstable as Windows' To add my $2e-2 to the argument, this is not a big concern. How many times have you seen NTFS crash? NTFS is not FAT (*), so windows is not really going to ruin the image file (unless the sky falls hard upon the partition, in which case windows will die as well the user will know who is to blame ;-). And from linux's side, since it's only a fixed-size image file, there is no danger of damaging the NTFS either - the only access to NTFS is read-only to find the sectors where the image file sits. The ext3 file is stored on the NTFS disk. Any time you write to the ext3 file, you are writing to NTFS. NTFS write support is BAD for Linux. Furthermore, MS could see how Linux is writing to NTFS and 'update' Windows and the filesystem to change the API a bit. Like you said, it's undocumented, and it could change at any time. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/ajax.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/52/16/ac-dc/fly_on_the_wall.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting into linux from windows98
On 29/01/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/01/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ext3 file is stored on the NTFS disk. Any time you write to the ext3 file, you are writing to NTFS. NTFS write support is BAD for Linux. Ever heard of ntfs-3g ( http://www.ntfs-3g.org/)? Apparently it improved things enough to be considered good for production environments. Even before that - as far as I remember the old driver could write to files without changing their sizes for many years, it was new block allocation that took a while to work. So you are saying that once the ext3 file[system] is allocated (under windows), then it can be writen to, but not have it's size changed. That sounds logical, as that's how a disk partition would work anyway. Furthermore, MS could see how Linux is writing to NTFS and 'update' Windows and the filesystem to change the API a bit. Like you said, it's undocumented, and it could change at any time. That's too much paranoia. The paranoid survive. So many tools use the API to write to NTFS that MS can't just change the API under everyone's feet without warning. I know they keep doing this from one version to another, and the DrDos case yadayadayada, but it's too simplistic to put this prediction that way and I don't believe that this particular niche of linux being able to write to NTFS partitions directly is worth MS any amount of resources to tackle. McAfree, PartitionMagic and Norton are already in bed with MS. Keeping big business afloat while drowning the little guy is something that MS has done many times in the past. What does MS care if MoshePartition suddenly stops working? Dotan Cohen http://essentialinux.com/locale.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/microsoft.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: booting into linux from windows98
On 29/01/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do they care if Linux NTFS keeps working? Vender lock-in is Microsoft's number-two business model, right behind Extend, Embrace, Extinguish. How many people do you know that continue to use Windows because their old software/ files are accesable only with MS products? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/139/12/aaliyah/aaliyah.html http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_hdtv.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: archiving parts in linux.
On 29/01/07, Yedidyah Bar-David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also have a feeling (did not check) that dd is much faster. -- Didi You're probably partial to dd because it's your name! Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/computer.html http://slashedot.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: message frequency ?
On 30/01/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the approximate message frequency ? 2.4 gHz like everything else on my wifi connection. Dotan Cohen http://dotancohen.com/terriblereferrer/index.php http://what-is-what.com/what_is/html.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: archiving parts in linux.
On 01/02/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 30 January 2007 16:19, Yehoshua (Shay) O'Hayon Suchar wrote: Tzahi Fadida said: I tried 7z but after about 12% of archiving it gives a weird error: Error: System error: Too many open files (and this file was never opened :). What can i do? Could be that the error has something to do with the limit of file descriptors in the system? Sorry for not responding earlier. My system crashed and i had to restore from backups. I did not really understand this. Are you saying there is a limit on the number of files i can tar gz? I also make backups of my emails and there can be as much as a million files, pherhaps more because of the mbox style(i think) of holding mails. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but so far as I know mbox saves all the emails of a particular folder in one big file. So if you have 200 emails in 5 folders, then you will have 5 mbox files. Kmail has another two or three files per mbox folder, so you really will have 5*n folders, but you get the idea. It's not 200*n. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/firefox.html http://technology-sleuth.com/question/what_is_a_firewall.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Making sure Actcom lives on
On 30/01/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:51:41PM +0200, Random Penguin wrote: Rumor would have it that Bezeq Benleumi have purchased Actcom for the knowledge base and not the customer base. From a business perspective, this does make sense. Both in the press and when speaking to Actcom on the phone the current line is Everything will stay the same, only the ownership has changed. They apparently understand that any attempt to convert current Actcom customers to Bezeq Benleumi customers will only be met with a mass exodus. And you expect a company with BBL's customer service record, who's CEO hires a company to write a virus so that he can spy on other companies, will honor this? Quite frankly, they don't care. If 20% of Actcom's customers leave (which is very unlikely), they were the ones that generated 80% of the customer service calls. Most likley the number of Linux and UNIX (including Macintosh) customers is a few percent. If they can ditch them, they will make more profit, not less. Take for example, the recent YES/HOT debates. HOT, which is an independent company changed their decision and gave their customers what they want, YES, which is partly owned by BEZEQ (BBL is 100% owned by them) did nothing except tell their customers that what they will give them is what they will take. Geoff. What you say is reason enough to make such a petition. I'll even sign it in person if it's written in Haifa. Dotan Cohen http://iphone-wiki.com http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/47/b-52_s.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quickest way to list content of directory(s)
On 12/02/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why not write a COBOL application that uses a FORTRAN subroutine to do that ? He wants it to run fast. Write it in machine code! Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/643/talib_kweli.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/quicktime.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: entering hebrew?
On 14/02/07, Julian Daich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: El mié, 14-02-2007 a las 09:55 +0200, Dan Bar Dov escribió: How do I input hebrew on Linux? Your question sound like,¨ How do I use an computer?¨ That wasn't nice. Dan probably has experience with Windows, not Linux. When he learns Linux, and then sits down at a Mac, he will then also need to ask (As would you and I at a Mac terminal) how to enter Hebrew. And he turned to the rihgt place to ask: this mailing list. That's what we are here for. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/653/frukwan.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html
Re: entering hebrew?
On 14/02/07, Dan Bar Dov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I input hebrew on Linux? More specifically, in firefox (2.0). Thanks, Dan Dan, the answer to your question depends on several things. What distro are you using? Ubuntu? Fedora? Gentoo? Slackware? SUSE? Something else? Also, what desktop are you using? KDE? Gnome? XFCE? Something else? If you're not sure, then send to me a screenshot of the desktop, make sure that it includes the task bar. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/love.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/541/2_skinnee_j_s.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: entering hebrew?
On 14/02/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i am using RH9, fvwm. i can switch the keyboard to write in openoffice, but not firefox. many thanks ! dorit Probably a Firefox bug, then. If you can type in Hebrew in OOo and other apps, then you've got the OS and WM configured properly at least. And I know of a Firefox bug whereby keyboard shortcuts don't work in Hebrew. Can you type into a text editor and then paste into Firefox? Also, is your machine capable of running KDE or Gnome? (256MB RAM)? You might want to try one of those WMs if you're not too attached to fvwm. I had many problems with Hebrew in xfce, which I believe is similar. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/css.html http://song-lyriks.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quickest way to list content of directory(s)
On 15/02/07, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gilboa Davara wrote: BTW, certain operations (atomic operations/counters/etc) -require- asm code. In an age where GCC, probably the least optimizing compiler among all popular compilers... If gcc is so bad, can one use a different compiler on, say, an FC6 box? I'm not computer expert, but I'd like the programs that I do compile to at least run as best they could. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/49/16/ac-dc/ballbreaker.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/skype.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: jpost + firefox = not good
On 27/02/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone got trouble loading jpost articles with FF ? try: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1171894527527pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull The page keeps loading for a long time, and displaying post replies opens a popup with all the trimmings and without the reply. And make sure all your UPSes are up and running. Peter Firefox 2.x, Fedora Core 6 on Dell lappy using Actcom in Haifa. The site loads fine, and fast. But it sounds as if _your_ connection is slow or faulty. Where are you, and who is your ISP? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/351/modern_talking.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/linux_distribution.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I encode Hebrew in PHP?
On 07/03/07, Ira Abramov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You could get a voice line from HOT. It includes 2000 free minutes to BEZEQ numbers. did they solve the problems of sending faxes over those voip lines? Sorry for the late reply. I have hot VOIP service at home (nesher). I can send and receive faxes. So it works. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/voip.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Leumit not working in Firefox
Please call Leumit (1-700-705-705) and complain that they are idiots, er no, that Leumit.co.il does not work in Firefox. Specifically, the login page for blood checks is all M$-specific Javascript and it is impossible to use with Firefox, Opera, Konqueror, etc. They require 500 NIS of software (MS operating system) to use their website. The excuse they gave me was that this is to comply with Misrad Habriut requirements of security. The only other way to get the blood results is to call to request a fax. They send a Ishur Vitur Sodiut, which we must fax back, and then they send the results. Which is a pain for those who HAVE fax machines at home. What about those without? Thanks, group. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leumit not working in Firefox
On 12/03/07, Constantine Shulyupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You may start open letter at http://www.iglu.org.il/wiki/index.php/Main_Page to support browser friendly sites. That doe not sound very effective. And I do not want browser-friendly sites. I want valid HTML code. There is a difference. I also expect the doctor/nurse/receptionist to speak valid Hebrew (or something close enough to it that I can understand) when I visit the clinic. So why should I not expect valid HTML from the website? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leumit not working in Firefox
On 13/03/07, Game Wizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Today I had a meeting (work related) with people from Leumit and I notified them of this issue. They said it wasn't by design and they will fix it soon. Sometimes you just need to speak to the correct people, I guess :-) Alon. That was actually the response that I got a few months ago when I last contacted them about the problem. So soon is at least half a year, that I've been waiting. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/445/sepultura.html http://technology-sleuth.com/question/what_is_hdtv.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Scanners
On 18/03/07, Daniel Feiglin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello folks! I am looking for a low end USB flatbed scanner = NIS 1000, mostly as a fax front end and for scanning documents. No fancy photography is required. An examination of the Sane site, http://www.sane-project.org/ as well as a look at the SUSE scanner installation list, crossed with what seems to be available in Israel e.g. http://www.zap.co.il/ yields about two Epson models (1260, 390) with good or complete functionality. I find that hard to believe. The sort of unit I have in mind should have resolution 1200x2400 or better, 48 bit color and A4 size. I would appreciate any other leads, URL's to Israeli suppliers. Regards, Daniel I see that somwone else recommended an HP all in one. We have an HP 42555 all in one that we bought from p1000 for about 800 NIS. THe p1000 site doesn't work so well with Firefox, so I can't really recommend the site, but the printer is great, the fax is great, and the scanner is great. The printer and scanner work fine on FC6 and Kubuntu, even better than they did under XP. With XP, installing the drivers properly is a pain and it installs a ton of crap. Under KDE it just works. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On 23/03/07, Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday March 22 2007, Peter wrote: Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any offensive language. Found and forwarded (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It is the bayesian filter that kicks in and marks it as spam. I am adding a procmail rule locally to handle the false positives originating from your address. Hopefully, that will improve the situation. Instead of resending the same message (that only increases your spam score), or complaining on the list, you always can send me the contents of Message-Id: header privately and I will look it up the spam queue. Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/lyrics/111/19/adams_bryan/live_live_live_.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/bios.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 03:55:51PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: On 23/03/07, Moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday March 22 2007, Peter wrote: Again the list police ate a message of mine. No, it did not use any offensive language. Found and forwarded (Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It is the bayesian filter that kicks in and marks it as spam. I am adding a procmail rule locally to handle the false positives originating from your address. Hopefully, that will improve the situation. Instead of resending the same message (that only increases your spam score), or complaining on the list, you always can send me the contents of Message-Id: header privately and I will look it up the spam queue. Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice. I like this idea. (silly test) -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849755 || friend t = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On 24/03/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to whitelist addresses that have X posts? I'd imagine any X larger than 10 should suffice. I like this idea. (silly test) -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849755 || friend t Ah, understood. I did know that it is so easy to forge From addresses. I just did not think of it. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: list police ate my message
On 24/03/07, Tzahi Fadida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps there is a way to register a key to the list engine and you can sign your email with the key. Then, the list engine will be sure to know it is you. Everyone else and your not signed emails will have to pass the spam filters. It's called pgp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pretty_Good_Privacy Dotan Cohen http://technology-sleuth.com/long_answer/what_is_a_router.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/kde.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for a Laptop
I'm using a Dell Inspiron 6400 lappy with Fedora Core 6. At the time I bought it, one HAD to purchase Windowx XP with it, but now I think that you have a choice of Vista or some Linux distro, I don't know which. I don't think that any lappy today comes without Vista. What I need: 1. FOSS 3-D drivers. I've never tried 3D, but for everyday use the Radeon x1400 card in this Dell works just fine. 2. FOSS Ethernet drivers. Wireless and wired internet work fine. Did take some tweaking, though, and I cannot promised that I used only open source drivers (but I think so). 3. Working screen. At it's native 1400x1050 resolution. 4. Working external projector/screen connector. Check. 5. Big hard disk - at least 80 GB. That's what I've got, at 7200 RPM. Could have gone even bigger. 6. At least 2 GB of RAM. Check. 7. I don't mind buying a separate USB wifi connector with FOSS drivers (but possibly non-FOSS firmware). Built in. 8. A well-known company. (Lenovo, Dell, HP, etc.) It is a Dell. 9. Good experience with it. I'm happy so far. The thing scratches just by looking at it, and the rubber feet fell off in less than a month. Other than that, I'm rather happy. 10. All hardware works with open source drivers, at least on Linux. FreeBSD would be a big plus. I haven't had a chance to test the bluetooth, and the wifi/video card may need closed source drivers. I don't understand why you are so uptight about using open source drivers when you plan on dualbooting with Windows. Should I remind you that windows is not open source? Regards, Shlomi Fish Was it you who said don't worry? :) Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/288/k-ci_and_jojo.html http://what-is-what.com/what_is/activex.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Israel.pm] israel.pm meeting on 12/4/2007
On 08/04/07, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Shmuel! On Sunday 08 April 2007, Shmuel Fomberg wrote: Hi Shlomi. Would you or any other F5er would like to update the site directly? I'm getting tired of doing it, and want to delegate some responsibilities to people with less community involvement. A similar issue is publicising in time in Perl-IL, Linux-IL, Whatsup, Linmagazine, which I'd also like to delegate. The previous meeting had very little attendance due to an incredibly low publicity. Everyone dependended on me, and I thought it was unnecessary. (my mistake, I know, but at least we've learned from this experience) Why haven't you written a script by now, that post a message on all these boards? You are so under-productive. You are a programmer - program! Thanks for labelling me as under-productive. :-) As you may well know laziness is one of the three great virtues of a programmer. And besides it's not that simple - I need it in English for the mailing lists, and in Hebrew for the web sites, and I need to customise the content etc. And it's not very time-consuming. However, I feel that with my level of contribution to the FOSS world, I have much better things to contribute to my time than to publicise it, which any HTML-knowing kid can do. And some people practically don't do anything to Perl or FOSS, while I may be over-doing things a bit. What have you done for your country lately? If you don't want publicity for the meetings - fine - I'm not going to do it. If you do want, then someone will have to volunteer. In fact, I'm CCing this message to Linux-IL where some people may volunteer. Regards, Shlomi Fish Good that you CC the list, but what exactly is the request? You want someone to maintain the website? I'll do it. You want someone to publicise meetings offline? I'll hang papers at the Technion. You want someone to translate Linux info HebEng, sent it to me. I'll be glad to help with what I can. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/buffer_overflow.html http://lyricslist.com/lyrics/artist_albums/155/depeche_mode.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommendation for a Laptop
On 10/04/07, Micha Feigin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't use Konqueror since I don't like kde (both it and gnome have the hobby of trying to take over the world by flooding it with daemons). Opera usually misbehaves and firefox/iceweasel/swiftfox (which is the least worse solution I found since most sites don't work well with w3m and similar) hog the memory like a starved rino (150MB min with the occasional habit of going to over 600MB). Not that I can say that explorer is any better, I'm still waiting for a decent browser to appear. Lynx maybe? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/adsl.html http://essentialinux.com/linux-software.php = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing libmimedir as a prerequisite to Synce 0.10.0
I'm using Fedora Core 6 on a Dell Inspiron 6400 /E1505 laptop. I am trying to install libmimedir versions 0.4 or 0.5 for synce 0.10.0. I can install libmimedir-0.4, but when I make synce-rra it complains: checking for mdir_parse in -lmimedir... no configure: error: Can't find libmimedir (http://sourceforge.net/projects/libmimedir/) So I try to install libmimedir-0.5, but make fails: o add.o count.o del.o ranlib .libs/libmimedir.a creating libmimedir.la (cd .libs rm -f libmimedir.la ln -s ../libmimedir.la libmimedir.la) gcc -Wall -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o test.o -c test.c /bin/sh ./libtool --mode=link gcc -Wall -g -O2 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -o test test.o -L. libmimedir.la libtool: link: cannot find the library `' make: *** [test] Error 1 What must I do to either: 1) Install libmimedir-0.5? or 2) Have synce-rra recognise linmimedir-0.4? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Copying and pasting Hebrew text Firefox-OOo
On Fedora Core 6, I am trying to copy and paste Hebrew text from Firefox 2.0.0.2 to Open Office 2.2 Writer / Calc. The text is encoded in ISO-8859-8 (one of several Hebrew encodings) from the website 999.co.il. When I paste into either Writer or Calc, the text is backwards (left to right). What is the solution/ workaround to copying and pasting from Firefox? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Copying and pasting Hebrew text Firefox-OOo
On 13/05/07, ik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, The website as I see it is CP1255 and not iso-8859-8 ! I tested what You have tried to do, but I'm able to paste the Hebrew the same as it looks on firefox 2.0.0.3. My OpenOffice is 2.2.0 under KUbuntu 7.0.4 Ido Turns out that the site itself is part cp-1255, and part iso-8859-8, which all copy and paste fine. The emails they send are Visual Hebrew, not Logical, so the text is BACKWARDS. There is some mechanism ensuring that the text is flowed from left to right, so that it appears correct. It's all tables too, because linebreaks would screw it up. So OOo is pasting correctly, it's just that 'correctly' is backwards. I'll write to them and tell them how stupid they are. Also, the registration of 999.co.il does not work for anything other than Internet Explorer. There is some JavaScript in the signup form that does not work with Konqueror/Firefox/Opera. I suggest that some people call them (I did) to let them know. The more we complain, the more chance that they will fix it. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com/what_is/html.html http://technology-sleuth.com/short_answer/what_is_a_cellphone.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Current status of Israeli ISPs
On 11/06/07, Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the current status of Linux support by Israeli ISPs? I need to choose an ISP through which I'll connect to the Internet from my ADSL connection. My criteria: 1. Good support (including support by FAX) when there is a problem in connecting to the Internet. 2. Linux-cluefulness of the support personnel - not having to have a working MS-Windows copy at all in order to establish and maintain connection. I am not looking for the cheapest deal. What are the best recommendations nowadays? If I get enough replies, I'll summarize to the list. --- Omer Your choices are these: 1) Actcom 2) Actcom 3) Actcom Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Current status of Israeli ISPs
On 17/06/07, Schneidman Danny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ASAF HALILI wrote: But Actcom sold to bezeq and i'm not sure about the linux support now, you need to check it. Dont count on Linux support, as all employees got fired, and as far as i understood, Bezeq's supporters have no clue Danny The last time I called with a problem (some weeks ago) all seemed normal. I'll try bugging them again to see what has changed. If there is no Linux support at Actcom anymore, then what must one do to connect via a Jordanian ISP? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Player similar in function to Winamp.
On 15/07/07, Dvir Volk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amarok is a very very good media player and indexer. http://amarok.kde.org/ XMMP is a winamp clone, but I also second Amarok. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Player similar in function to Winamp.
On 15/07/07, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XMMP is a winamp clone, but I also second Amarok. Don't you mean XMMS ? There was something called XMMP, but its dead for 5 years now, and I never was aware that it was meant as a Winamp clone. XMMS actually supports Winamp skins so you can have it look exactly like Winamp. Another player with Winamp skin support is Noatun, the old media player for KDE - now a bit dead as well, mostly due to the popularity of Amarok. I probably do mean XMMS. It's been a lot time since I've touched anything other than amarok. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Walla in Firefox
Can anybnody send mail inWalla Mail with firefox? All I get is a red line when I hit Send. Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Walla in Firefox
On 17/07/07, Tomer Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got their promise for working version that will got live in two months. Let's hope to get it working in mid-August or September. See here - http://mozilla.org.il/board/viewtopic.php?t=5287 Actually, I think that it _was_ working earlier this year. Lets continue to browse the site in Firefox, to keep the percentage up. That usually gets attention. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Walla in Firefox
On 18/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or just stop using their site and go somewhere else, as I used to do. I used to visit some of their forums years ago until it stopped working with Firefox, so I moved on to more cooperative (or less uncooperative, in Tapuz's case) sites. For personal use, yes. The problem is, that a _lot_ of people use Walla and will not switch. They don't seem to understand that they _can_ switch. And I they already have enough to deal with when switching from XP to Ubuntu. Websites that don't work, and must be abandoned, is hard for them to grasp. Yes, Walla has prevented people (at least two that I have helped) from switching to Ubuntu. And probably hundreds of others from switching to Firefox. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Walla in Firefox
On 18/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Walla has prevented people (at least two that I have helped) from switching to Ubuntu. And probably hundreds of others from switching to Firefox. What about IEs4Linux ( http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page) as an easy way to infect your Ubuntu with IE? But I'm probably digressing, and your main point of keeping the Firefox hit count on Walla's radar up might have merit. Cheers, --Amos Last time I tried IE4Linux, the Hebrew support was terrible. Ugly fonts, and no typing. Has that improved? What distro/desktop/locale does it work well on? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Walla in Firefox
On 19/07/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have access to this installation any more. As far as I remember Hebrew worked well. I plan to install it on my new desktop in the near future (to test a web site, hopefully in a matter of days). Will try to get back to you when I have an answer. Thanks. I won't have a chance to try it for at least another month. If I get around to it before you, then I'll post my results for the curious. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Walla in Firefox
On 26/07/07, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As much as I know IE4Linux actually installs wine so it is the same as installing wine and installing MSIE on top of it. Yes, but it has it's own specific configuration. It's a rather nice script, but I would not expect the wine community to support it. Just install via the wine community's preferred method, then you can report bugs. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Walla in Firefox
On 25/07/07, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're lucky that you got so far. On my Mandriva Cooker system using wine-0.9.41-1mdv2008.0 , I cannot open a page using the location bar in IE6 (but I remember that I could in the past). It always displays h instead, and tries to load it. Then when I got to open http://www.google.com/ using File - Open, MSIE just thinks for a bit and then crashes into wine. Perhaps I should report it, but where? To IE4Linux. If you can, install IE on Wine without IE4Linux, and test if it works as expected. If not, then you can file a bug on Wine as well. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
English language in console
In Ubuntu 7.04 I use KDE's Konsole program to access the CLI. The default language of my system is Hebrew, as is the KDE desktop, but I'd prefer that the console be English only. How does once configure that? Here is an example of Hebrew output in Konsole: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install vmware-server vmware-tools-kernel-modules Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libssl0.9.7 netkit-inetd vmware-server-kernel-modules vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 vmware-tools-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 החבילות החדשות הבאות הולכות להיות מותקנות: libssl0.9.7 netkit-inetd vmware-server vmware-server-kernel-modules vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 vmware-tools-kernel-modules vmware-tools-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 0 משודרגים, 7 מותקנים חדשים, 0 יוסרו ו-4 לא ישודרגו. צריך לקבל 85.3MB מתוך הארכיונים. אחרי פריסה 145MB נוספים יהיו בשימוש. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y I'd like that all to be in English. How? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/
Re: English language in console
On 23/08/07, shimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 August 2007 02:34, Dotan Cohen wrote: In Ubuntu 7.04 I use KDE's Konsole program to access the CLI. The default language of my system is Hebrew, as is the KDE desktop, but I'd prefer that the console be English only. How does once configure that? Here is an example of Hebrew output in Konsole: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install vmware-server vmware-tools-kernel-modules Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libssl0.9.7 netkit-inetd vmware-server-kernel-modules vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 vmware-tools-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 החבילות החדשות הבאות הולכות להיות מותקנות: libssl0.9.7 netkit-inetd vmware-server vmware-server-kernel-modules vmware-server-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 vmware-tools-kernel-modules vmware-tools-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16 0 משודרגים, 7 מותקנים חדשים, 0 יוסרו ו-4 לא ישודרגו. צריך לקבל 85.3MB מתוך הארכיונים. אחרי פריסה 145MB נוספים יהיו בשימוש. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y I'd like that all to be in English. How? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ Check out the LC* environment variables ( set | grep ^LC ) - if you re-export the relevant LC variable and set it into English, you'll get what you want. Do note that you're changing a user during this operation and you might be overwriting those variables when you do that; So I suggest you won't use sudo while you're testing this (but use su instead) - and when you're OK with the results, incorporate this into your shell's rc file. -- Shimi Do you mean to simply put export LANG=C into .bashrc? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/
Re: English language in console
On 23/08/07, shimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If that specific variable changes the behavior as you wish (like I said - there are few of them, some used by some programs, some used by others...) - then - yes :) -- Shimi That works, thanks! Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: English language in console
On 23/08/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, LC_MESSAGES is responsible for the text messages translation. Thus in some cases you may want to leave LANG, LC_CTYPE (character types) on other value, and set only LC_MESSAGES to the desires language. the command 'locale' shows the current settings. - Oren Thanks. I found this site that explains it: http://essentialinux.com/locale.php Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenMoko
On 09/07/07, Constantine Shulyupin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenMoko is out! Who is interesting to buy it? http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/07/07/09/0049249.shtml http://www.openmoko.com/ I'd buy one if it had Hebrew support. Price not important. Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ אבגדהוזחטיךכלםמןנסעףפץצקרשת
Re: OpenMoko
On 02/09/07, Dov Grobgeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you define Hebrew support? Perhaps we should prepare a checklist and examine the status. Here is a partial list: 1. Support for reading Hebrew. This is probably taken care of because of Gtk's unicode support. This is a level one must. It will need fonts, too, not just unicode support. 2. Localization of interface. List of applications? Less important. 3. Hebrew keyboard input. Any type of Hebrew input is fine for the first version. An onscreen keyboard, for instance. 4. Hebrew graffitti input. Less important. I need my contacts, calendar, and SMS messages to be in Hebrew. That goes for reading and writing. The device interface is less important. I'm willing to beta test, of course, but I'm not programmer. I can host files at http://dotancohen.com as well. Better yet, I have no problem developing and maintaining a Hebrew OpenMoko website that deals with issues specific to Israel and Hebrew and Arabic language support. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il -- אבגדהוזחטיךכלםמןנסעףפץצקרשת
Re: Virtualization software on Linux
On 08/07/2007, Eran Sandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I haven't been active lately on the mailing list but I am watching it. I have a question regarding virtualization software on Linux. I plan on getting a new laptop. Unfortunately I still need access to Windows for some development purposes and I need to know the performance of virtualization software such as VmWare or Parallels on Linux as opposed to Parallels on Mac (which I heard is really really fast). Of course I would rather have a laptop running Ubuntu or some other Linux variant and have a virtualization software such as VmWare (or something else that is really fast) running instead of using Mac, but I would do anything in my power to avoid running a Windows laptop (and since its new it will probably have Vista which is even worse). Does any of you have prior experience with this or know someone who does? I'll have to run Visual Studio 2005, compile and run it with MSSQL on that machine and it should work smoothly. I'd love to get comments and/or information about it. Thanks, Eran On my Dell Inspiron 6400 2 Ghz Intel, 2GB RAM, Windows runs extremely well in VMWare server. I've never installed Windows on this machine (formated the hard disk as soon as I got it), so I cannot compare, but it feels to be native speed. That is, Windows in the VM on this laptop runs faster than native Windows on my university computers. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
Re: Ubuntu discs for Jerusalem Linux Club Instaparty
On 16/10/2007, Oded Arbel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 23:50 +0200, Guy Sheffer wrote: We don't necessarily want ubuntu 7.10. I think 7.10 is alright, it has been tested since it was out. And is probably less buggy. 7.10 ? 7.10 ? did you want to use 7.04 for one of these ? I think going with 7.04 for Linux newbies would be a mistake - 7.10 is tested enough (I'm running it for about 3 months now, and I believe it will be very stable when released) and it offers a lot of new user visible changes and improvements in usability (and eye candy). If you position Linux as a contender in the desktop computing arena, you have to take into account the competition and while 7.10 is definitely up to par with operating system offerings from other vendors (and I'm not talking about other Linux vendors), 7.04 is not - unless you only compare it to 5 years old operating systems, which is a mistake I hope you are not going to make. Most of our club members are busy people. If you were in August Penguin 2007, you might have heard the theory there about someone needs to. Most of the JLC members are busy people with no time. I have no way of doing that (nether do I have time for it). Ok, I figured this would be coming my way when I wrote my previous e-mail :-) I have access to a lightscribe writer and while I'm also very busy, I think I can find the time to burn some CDs. If other people can help fund the supplies (and I'm willing to pitch in here as well), I can do the work. I'm not sure what it takes to do a commercial CD burn and how it compares in prices and work involved, but I'll check. -- Oded If you don't mind ugly Tush-marked CD's then I don't mind burning 50 Ubuntu 7.10 discs and sending them to you. I've just installed it over 7.04 and the difference is worth it. I have had problems with 7.04, Fedora 6 and 7, OpenSuse 10.3, and several other distros on my Dell Inspiron laptop. 7.10 was the first distro to completely install itself and get to the GUI upon first boot without X failing. Damned that ATI X1400 and 1680x1050 screen. :) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Ubuntu discs for Jerusalem Linux Club Instaparty
On 19/10/2007, Guy Sheffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info, At the moment, we do mind ugly Tush-Marked CDs, however, we are working now on getting burnable cds with labels pre-printed. Just tell me - where are you located? If I do need a burning force for this, would you be able to take 50 cds and burn them? Thanks, Guy JLC I'm in Nesher, just outside the Technion (where I study). I can go pick up 50 CD's at the Michlol store and burn them here at home. That's an investment of what, 50 NIS and one day's labor? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: Pango Hebrew and Ampersand char
On 29/11/2007, ik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello List, I have this weird annoying bug on a GTK2 based program. When I use Hebrew everything displaied properly, but when I add the ampersand char () it will report a warning: Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to pango_layout_set_text() Does anyone have experience with this issue and knows what I'm missing ? Thanks, Ido The program may be storing it's info in XML files. Ampersand is an illegal character in XML. In any case (XML or not) file a bug with the software's author. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: how to avoid google analytics
On 16/12/2007, sara fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a link of how to avoid google analytics from web sites. http://cafe.themarker.com/view.php?t=250692 Why would you want to do that? Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: yjobs.co.il-for-Mozilla Filter
On 20/12/2007, Shlomi Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! Well, this is also a way to make sites compatible with Firefox and other Mozilla-based browsers. :-) If you are job hunting and want to use http://www.yjobs.co.il/ and would prefer to use Firefox, then look no further than: http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/projects/yjobs-on-mozilla/ Download and read the instructions at the top. Open-sourced under the MIT-X11 licence, but the script contains some JavaScript code that appeared on yjobs.co.il and was modified. Happy Job Hunting! Regards, Shlomi Fish And don't forget to write to the owners of these sites and to tell them that they need to support Firefox. If anyone will send to me the address of a non-compatible site and details of the error, I'll gladly confirm the error and write to the webmaster. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
OT: Translate Gibberish to Hebrew
I've been working on a website that translates wrongly-encoded Hebrew (Gibberish) to legible Hebrew. Today I added another function which turns around backwards Hebrew without turning around numbers or English. Off topic or not, I figure that this would be a useful tool for many linux-il list members. Here is the address: http://gibberish.co.il/ If you have any problems with the site, let me know via the site's contact form, or email me here. Shavua Tov! Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: OT: Translate Gibberish to Hebrew
On 20/01/2008, Oren Held [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, I didn't realise it's a web thingie (I thought it's a Linux util). Very nice. I'll try to read better next time :) Actually, Oren, I did not realize that there are Linux tools that do the same thing. Had I know, I might not have written the site! Seriously, though, thanks for the info and I will mention those tools in an upcoming page about alternative solutions. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: OT: Translate Gibberish to Hebrew
On 20/01/2008, Oren Held [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 20 January 2008 16:15, Dotan Cohen wrote: Sorry, I didn't realise it's a web thingie (I thought it's a Linux util). Very nice. I'll try to read better next time :) Actually, Oren, I did not realize that there are Linux tools that do the same thing. Had I know, I might not have written the site! Seriously, though, thanks for the info and I will mention those tools in an upcoming page about alternative solutions. What you did is visual to logical. A quick search shows that fribidi DOESN'T do it. It seems to have fribidi_log2vis() function but not fribidi_vis2log() . I assume that you are referring to the change text direction service, one of two services provided by the site. I am not doing visual to logical, as I do not -mityajes- (how in English?) to the encoding of the inputed string. All input is UTF-8 as per the page encoding and metatag, and all input is assumed to be UTF-8 therefore. If two Hebrew letters are next to each other, then their location in the string is reversed. Hebrew and non-rtl letters do not have their positions reversed. I'm still perfecting the algorithm, so more borderline test cases would be welcome. Thanks. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: upgrade to Centos 5 question
On 28/01/2008, Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, It's always fun to play with a distribution that on one side has the latest tech, but on the other side, ditches you on the side after few months (and only giving you choice to upgrade, or be left without updates) I'm using Fedora Core 6 on my main web server, and today I found out that the security updates are no longer available for Fedora Core 6. Worse: ATRPMS, FreshRPMS are no longer maintained for FC6 which means that if I want the latest security stuff, I need to roll my own RPMS or fix things manually.. So I decided I want to upgrade from FC6 to Centos 5. I was wondering if anyone did it and if so, what method? what are the gotchas that I need to be careful of, or is it simply better to keep my data out, format the machine and install centos 5 from scratch? (Centos 5 does not recognize Fedora stuff, so the upgrade option is not given). Thanks, Hetz CentOS is based on RHEL, not Fedora. SO you cannot upgrade from one to the other. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: [HAIFUX Lecture] Git isn't a VCS
On 03/02/2008, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tomorrow (Monday), 4th of February, at 18:30 the Haifa Linux Club, will gather to Ohad Lutzky's (my!) lecture about Git isn't a VCS Git isn't a version control system. No fancy acronym, that's just what Linus says. Still, he wrote it and uses it to keep track of versions of the kernel. This presentation will be one big usage example of git. Knowledge in other VCSs (cvs, subversion, others) is recommended, but optional. Also recommended but optional is viewing Linus's talk on motivation for writing (and using) git: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 == We meet in Taub building, room 6. For location instructions see: http://www.haifux.org/where.html Attendance is free, and you are all invited! == Future Lectures: A lightning talks session about crawlersEverybody! 11/2/08 Tapping into the Fountain of CPUs---On Operating System Support for Programmable Devices Muli Ben-Yehuda 25/2/08 We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish to give a talk, hold a discussion, or just plan some event haifux might be interested in, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a replacement lecture tomorrow at 18:00 but as soon as it lets out I'll see if you guys are still there... Save some coffee for me... Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: linux as bluetooth keyboard
On 09/02/2008, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i want to make my linux laptop act as a bluetooth keyboard i tryed googling for it, but only found how to connect a bluetooth keyboard to linux. anybody knows how (or where to look) ? 10x, erez. I'd ask on the bluez list. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: RTL in plaintext mails
On 25/02/2008, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: כפי שהיא צריכה להיות, מימין לשמאל וצמודה לימין. אני משתמש ב־kmail גרסה 3.5.8 ב-Fedora. In applications that use correct bidi algorithm the RTL is a given. However the unicode bidi alrgorithm does not specify (AFAIR) the *initial* paragraph direction. So if there is no explicit information (e.g: RLE), the application should have a reasonable heuristic. The most common such rule is to use the first character of the paragraph as an implicit direction setter (IIRC that is what bidiv uses). דגשים: - אני משתמש רק בטקסט רגיל, לא HTML (ובקידוד UTF-8). - היישור עובד טוב גם כשיש תווים נייטרלים בתחילת שורה (כמו המקפים והרווחים בתחילת שורות אלו). - בעקבות אזכור של מישהו (איני זוכר מי) גיליתי שהתו מקף עליון '־' מוגדר ביוניקוד כתו עם ישור ימין-שמאל. זה פותר המון בעיות של צירופים קשים כגון ה־9 לחודש (נסו לכתוב זאת עם מקף רגיל). הבעיה -- התן הזה חסר בגופנים נפוצים ב־Windows (כמו Arial וכו'), לכן צמצמתי קצת את השימוש בו. האם במערכות שלכם רואים אותו? In Gmail: http://dotancohen.com/images/examples/tzafrir.png I always send UTF-8 plaintext through Thunderbird. In Thunderbird with the bidi extension, one can ALT-SHIFT-X to change text alignment. This is for display only, though, and does not affect the message sent. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: RTL in plaintext mails
On 25/02/2008, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - בעקבות אזכור של מישהו (איני זוכר מי) גיליתי שהתו מקף עליון '־' מוגדר ביוניקוד כתו עם ישור ימין-שמאל. זה פותר המון בעיות של צירופים קשים כגון ה־9 לחודש (נסו לכתוב זאת עם מקף רגיל). הבעיה -- התן הזה חסר בגופנים נפוצים ב־Windows (כמו Arial וכו'), לכן צמצמתי קצת את השימוש בו. האם במערכות שלכם רואים אותו? איך מקלידים את המקף העליון? אני משתמש בKDE, אם זה חשוב. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: RTL in plaintext mails
On 26/02/2008, Herouth Maoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 25/02/2008, Oron Peled [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - בעקבות אזכור של מישהו (איני זוכר מי) גיליתי שהתו מקף עליון '־' מוגדר ביוניקוד כתו עם ישור ימין-שמאל. זה פותר המון בעיות של צירופים קשים כגון ה־9 לחודש (נסו לכתוב זאת עם מקף רגיל). הבעיה -- התן הזה חסר בגופנים נפוצים ב־Windows (כמו Arial וכו'), לכן צמצמתי קצת את השימוש בו. האם במערכות שלכם רואים אותו? איך מקלידים את המקף העליון? אני משתמש בKDE, אם זה חשוב. Using the lyx keyboard that comes in KDE, click shift-minus. I use it all the time in any application that supports unicode. Herouth No way with the keyboard? I have a hard time using the mouse. Broken thumb.] Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Re: RTL in plaintext mails
On 26/02/2008, Herouth Maoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: איך מקלידים את המקף העליון? אני משתמש בKDE, אם זה חשוב. Using the lyx keyboard that comes in KDE, click shift-minus. I use it all the time in any application that supports unicode. Herouth No way with the keyboard? I have a hard time using the mouse. Broken thumb.] Maybe my use of the word click misled you. Should have said press. Where is the lyx keyboard? Pressing SHIFT-minus for me gives me underscore. Pressing SHIFT-numpadMinus gives me minus. I looked in Kcontrol for lyx keyboard but do not see it. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
Nice fonts that support nikud
What fonts can be recommended for use that support Nikud, and look nice in Hebrew and English. I am currently using MS Tahoma, but it does not support Nikud. I understand that OpenType fonts are best, so what are the names of recommended OpenType fonts with Hebrew glyphs that look nice in Hebrew and English? Thanks in advance. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
