[videoblogging] Sign Up for Video on the Net Soon
Hi Guys- Video on the Net is coming up quick. It's a conference about the impact of broadband Internet on TV, Film, and Broadcasting. March 19-22nd in San Jose. Check the schedule at http://www.videoonthenet.com for the speakers list to see who you might like. Jeff Pulver is offering active current videobloggers access to the conference as his guest, provided you show proof of your current videoblog and provided you let me know by the 17th (5 days) that you're coming. If you want to attend, please email me for details. blog at chrisbrogan dot com. Thanks! --Chris...
[videoblogging] Re: vloggers in atlanta?
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey all, i got an message from someone in atlanta who is doing a podcamp there and is looking for local vloggers... anyone know anyone? pls leme know as the event is coming up and i want to help this guy out! thanks! irina Hey, I wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions. I was able to find a good panel of people for a vlogging panel (there's another thread around here somewhere about this). I think it's going to be a great panel: http://benramsey.com/archives/podcamp-vlogging-panel/ Ben
Re: [videoblogging] Re: OH HELL!!!
One thing's for certain: That was another Noble post. I hope you'll be posting during Videoblogging Week 2007, Shannon (April 1-7). Anyway, I can understand Ron's point, though I don't really agree with it. I mean, I can see wanting the video to be more balanced, presenting a counteraction to the violence presented. But this is all nonsense; this is a simple, sweet video of the soccerkids being soccerkids. If any of us are experiencing violence, maybe it's because we're smokin' the blunt, and feelin' peaceful... See, but I'm only on caffeine, and the kicks and punches and flips suit my mood right now. Sincerely, Harold http://videoharold.com On 11 Mar 2007 23:03:48 -0700, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it interesting that you saw the punches and kicks as violent, but not giving the finger. I think the whole thing is indicative of how so many people these days feel absolutely nothing at all, yet attempt to act as if they do feel something. There's a lot of weird behavior in videos that has no connection to anything at all. I'm talking about grown-ups. These were just kids hamming it up for the camera, and you kind of expect them to do anything when it's their turn to 'perform'. It's always interesting to get other people's perspectives on things. like how some people think squirrels are food. -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV http://reelsolid.tv/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I kind of figured that I was going to get the namby pamby label with the analysis. It is soft You can call them 'power moves' and all, but they were punches and kicks, and punches and kicks are gestures of violence. I think they are emulating what they see on TV: punchy, kicky violence, some irreverence, and thankfully they did something that is out of character on TV, and that is to speak for peace. I also really liked it when the camera stopped on the one boy when he was giving the finger. He looked as if he had just gotten caught. It was an interesting video. Ron Watson On the Web: http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:21 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Ron Watson wrote: I also didn't care too much for the burst of violence. I guess this is just the hippy in me, but I really wish that were not part of their physical vocabulary so easily expressed and mimicked on film, and it was contagious. ron, why do you see this as violent? some people might just call them power moves is every sudden gesture or move an expression of violence? on the other hand, aren't they emulating what you might see on MTV? good to see you posting shannon --- Markus Sandy http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Let's Help The Others, As We Used To, To Vlog
Hey clowns, We had a rather excellent videoconference the other day, especially (in my opinion) when we begun talking about how we might be able to help others to begin videoblogging during the upcoming Videoblogging Week 2007: http://somethingthathappened.com/2007/03/today-i-attended-another.html Follow the link for more links; jump into the Replay of the videoconference and jump to 18:51 in the recording to see the topic we discussed. Essentially, I was thinking that we could come up with a way to assist others during our upcoming event. Harold http://videoharold.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: OH HELL!!!
Yeah. I'm pretty much a pacifist - but let's be honest: which of us, standing on a mountaintop, hasn't secretly pretended to be Christopher Lambert in Highlander, spinning round and round, wielding a massive 2000 year old japanese longsword and trying to cut off Sean Connery's head? Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 12 Mar 2007, at 17:08, Harold Johnson wrote: One thing's for certain: That was another Noble post. I hope you'll be posting during Videoblogging Week 2007, Shannon (April 1-7). Anyway, I can understand Ron's point, though I don't really agree with it. I mean, I can see wanting the video to be more balanced, presenting a counteraction to the violence presented. But this is all nonsense; this is a simple, sweet video of the soccerkids being soccerkids. If any of us are experiencing violence, maybe it's because we're smokin' the blunt, and feelin' peaceful... See, but I'm only on caffeine, and the kicks and punches and flips suit my mood right now. Sincerely, Harold http://videoharold.com On 11 Mar 2007 23:03:48 -0700, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it interesting that you saw the punches and kicks as violent, but not giving the finger. I think the whole thing is indicative of how so many people these days feel absolutely nothing at all, yet attempt to act as if they do feel something. There's a lot of weird behavior in videos that has no connection to anything at all. I'm talking about grown-ups. These were just kids hamming it up for the camera, and you kind of expect them to do anything when it's their turn to 'perform'. It's always interesting to get other people's perspectives on things. like how some people think squirrels are food. -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV http://reelsolid.tv/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I kind of figured that I was going to get the namby pamby label with the analysis. It is soft You can call them 'power moves' and all, but they were punches and kicks, and punches and kicks are gestures of violence. I think they are emulating what they see on TV: punchy, kicky violence, some irreverence, and thankfully they did something that is out of character on TV, and that is to speak for peace. I also really liked it when the camera stopped on the one boy when he was giving the finger. He looked as if he had just gotten caught. It was an interesting video. Ron Watson On the Web: http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:21 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Ron Watson wrote: I also didn't care too much for the burst of violence. I guess this is just the hippy in me, but I really wish that were not part of their physical vocabulary so easily expressed and mimicked on film, and it was contagious. ron, why do you see this as violent? some people might just call them power moves is every sudden gesture or move an expression of violence? on the other hand, aren't they emulating what you might see on MTV? good to see you posting shannon --- Markus Sandy http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] platform for a community
Get your own video online community at heavywebtraffic.com. After the class is completed you leave with your ever own online community that can generate you and your users money! check it out!
[videoblogging] Re: vloggers in atlanta?
Cool! I'll be there for PodCamp Atlanta, leading a session and hanging out with the rockstars of the podcasting/vlogging community. If anyone else is going, let's meet up! Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, ben.ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Irina irinaski@ wrote: hey all, i got an message from someone in atlanta who is doing a podcamp there and is looking for local vloggers... anyone know anyone? pls leme know as the event is coming up and i want to help this guy out! thanks! irina Hey, I wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions. I was able to find a good panel of people for a vlogging panel (there's another thread around here somewhere about this). I think it's going to be a great panel: http://benramsey.com/archives/podcamp-vlogging-panel/ Ben
[videoblogging] Re: Let's Help The Others, As We Used To, To Vlog
Thanks for the tipoff, I watched about half an hour of it, hope I got all the relevent bits. Great aim, I might be remembering wrong but I think part of the original idea of vlogweek was to encourage others to vlog. Quite how to achieve this is another question, I dont really know how many lurkers are on this list that are potential vloggers who havent managed it yet. As someone mentioned in the chat, youtube (and similar) certainly lowered the ba to being able to put video online. And Im not sure I can imagine too many vloggers going on youtube and promoting this idea of videoblog week. I dunno, its something id like to see, but Im really still unsure of the nature of any seperation that does exist between the 2 groups. Would vlogweek seem silly to some youtubers? Are there people who make videos but dont like the term blog or think of themselves as bloggers? Scratches head and wonders if youtubers will spontaneously do something similar themselves, totally independently, at some unknown time. Or maybe not, maybe every day is vlogday in youtube land. Anyway I never really helped with any education/awareness projects myself, Im unaware of how active the nodes are these days. Off the top of my head, if you want to make vlogweek alla bout getting new people to start, some people have to go and promote the week in advance, in places where people arent so aware of this thing, to focus all efforts here or even youtube is preaching to the converted a bit. I suppose Id also love to know some thoughts from any people who used to vlog and have now stopped for whatever reason, and wheterh vlogweek can help focus them to return, or just learn what put them off. I was mentioned in the chat as somone who doesnt vlog, and I agree that I was not a good example of the people you are probably trying to reach. Frankly it pains me that anybody really cares whether I am vlogging, I did make 3 or 4 videos years ago, maybe it was even for a vlog-week, I cant remember. One was me saying hello, one was fireant being shown on a TV monitor (via tv out from graphics card on a pc) and one was of NASAs world-wind which is an app like google earth. If I can get myself sorted to make the sorts of vlogs I want to, then I shall vlog during vlogweek. Funnily enough that stuff Enric was playing with in the chat, animated avatar stuff, is something I thought might help me or anybody else that suffers from shyness or self-image issues or something, to vlog. I have pondered for some years as to whether such things built into mobile phones, could be a saviour of the failed 'video phonecall', maybe people dont want to be seen like that but wouldnt mind hiding behind an avatar if it as ggood enough, and was based on live camera input for facial gestures etc. Its taking a long time for any system good enough to emerge on the desktop let alone the PC. Collaboration also came up and Im fascinated by the subject but I'll start a new thread on that. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Harold Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey clowns, We had a rather excellent videoconference the other day, especially (in my opinion) when we begun talking about how we might be able to help others to begin videoblogging during the upcoming Videoblogging Week 2007: http://somethingthathappened.com/2007/03/today-i-attended-another.html Follow the link for more links; jump into the Replay of the videoconference and jump to 18:51 in the recording to see the topic we discussed. Essentially, I was thinking that we could come up with a way to assist others during our upcoming event. Harold http://videoharold.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: platform for a community
Oh great the concept of community = $$$ has now reached the lowest levels of our amazing system. Now how many years will it take for them to realise that real communities are unlikely to come together around websites with names like heavywebtraffic. Well I suppose communities of ripped-off desperate naive people could form around such things. Hmm if communities are the new buzzword gateway to instant millions, they need some new jargon, what will replace SEO? Maybe COE, community-oriented exploitation? Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your own video online community at heavywebtraffic.com. After the class is completed you leave with your ever own online community that can generate you and your users money! check it out!
[videoblogging] Collaboration again
The flash meeting chat that Harold highlighted had some interesting talk about collaboration in it too. I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? Anyway I guess there are all sorts of non-technical reasons why collaboration can be a challenge. Having time, being in sync with the others, communicating ideas that may be hard to put into words, differing aims of different people, different inspirations etc, can all get in the way. I would guess that maybe some of these hurdles could be overcome with something similar to the youtube phenomenon - tools that work in the browser easily, and a critical mass of users and content. Im quite interested in systems where there would be millions of very short video fragments available in the system, and peple could construct vidoes from these and their own pieces. I am interested in 'video' type content being created semi-automatically from other sources (eg a text-to-video thing based on keywords that relate to the clip fragments). Ive run out of time to waffle now, any thoughts on this or completely different aspects of the collaboration thang? Cheers Steve Elbows
Re: [videoblogging] Re: platform for a community
Dude, you want to be careful what you say. The word community is trademarked. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=94m7jv.2.17 Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 12 Mar 2007, at 18:45, Steve Watkins wrote: Oh great the concept of community = $$$ has now reached the lowest levels of our amazing system. Now how many years will it take for them to realise that real communities are unlikely to come together around websites with names like heavywebtraffic. Well I suppose communities of ripped-off desperate naive people could form around such things. Hmm if communities are the new buzzword gateway to instant millions, they need some new jargon, what will replace SEO? Maybe COE, community-oriented exploitation? Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get your own video online community at heavywebtraffic.com. After the class is completed you leave with your ever own online community that can generate you and your users money! check it out! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Collaboration again
Something I came across recently http://www.cellblock.com sull On 12 Mar 2007 12:01:21 -0700, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The flash meeting chat that Harold highlighted had some interesting talk about collaboration in it too. I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? Anyway I guess there are all sorts of non-technical reasons why collaboration can be a challenge. Having time, being in sync with the others, communicating ideas that may be hard to put into words, differing aims of different people, different inspirations etc, can all get in the way. I would guess that maybe some of these hurdles could be overcome with something similar to the youtube phenomenon - tools that work in the browser easily, and a critical mass of users and content. Im quite interested in systems where there would be millions of very short video fragments available in the system, and peple could construct vidoes from these and their own pieces. I am interested in 'video' type content being created semi-automatically from other sources (eg a text-to-video thing based on keywords that relate to the clip fragments). Ive run out of time to waffle now, any thoughts on this or completely different aspects of the collaboration thang? Cheers Steve Elbows -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Collaboration again
We use Spin for collaborations. Usually one of us will have an idea, collect some video/audio/text, assemble a rough cut or sketch, compress it, and then drag all the media files into our Wreck Salvage Spinxpress group and hand it off to whomever you are working with at the time. A lot of the time we'll be on IM with each other during the process, coaching, suggesting, brainstorming, about what the video needs, how to achieve certain things. As for the text-to-video idea, Serra from headsoff made this thing last year, which is pretty sweet: http://www.videostring.net/ -Adam On 3/12/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The flash meeting chat that Harold highlighted had some interesting talk about collaboration in it too. I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? Anyway I guess there are all sorts of non-technical reasons why collaboration can be a challenge. Having time, being in sync with the others, communicating ideas that may be hard to put into words, differing aims of different people, different inspirations etc, can all get in the way. I would guess that maybe some of these hurdles could be overcome with something similar to the youtube phenomenon - tools that work in the browser easily, and a critical mass of users and content. Im quite interested in systems where there would be millions of very short video fragments available in the system, and peple could construct vidoes from these and their own pieces. I am interested in 'video' type content being created semi-automatically from other sources (eg a text-to-video thing based on keywords that relate to the clip fragments). Ive run out of time to waffle now, any thoughts on this or completely different aspects of the collaboration thang? Cheers Steve Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Collaboration again
Just dreaming here but what would be cool is if the people you are collaborating with could see what you are doing real time. Almost like remoting in to your PC but completely secure and allowing multiple people. That way as someone is editing you could have someone else looking for the next cut or footage, etcthat would be coolor a big freakin headache.I am hoping cool... Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Spin for collaborations. Usually one of us will have an idea, collect some video/audio/text, assemble a rough cut or sketch, compress it, and then drag all the media files into our Wreck Salvage Spinxpress group and hand it off to whomever you are working with at the time. A lot of the time we'll be on IM with each other during the process, coaching, suggesting, brainstorming, about what the video needs, how to achieve certain things. As for the text-to-video idea, Serra from headsoff made this thing last year, which is pretty sweet: http://www.videostring.net/ -Adam On 3/12/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The flash meeting chat that Harold highlighted had some interesting talk about collaboration in it too. I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? Anyway I guess there are all sorts of non-technical reasons why collaboration can be a challenge. Having time, being in sync with the others, communicating ideas that may be hard to put into words, differing aims of different people, different inspirations etc, can all get in the way. I would guess that maybe some of these hurdles could be overcome with something similar to the youtube phenomenon - tools that work in the browser easily, and a critical mass of users and content. Im quite interested in systems where there would be millions of very short video fragments available in the system, and peple could construct vidoes from these and their own pieces. I am interested in 'video' type content being created semi-automatically from other sources (eg a text-to-video thing based on keywords that relate to the clip fragments). Ive run out of time to waffle now, any thoughts on this or completely different aspects of the collaboration thang? Cheers Steve Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: platform for a community
Interesting quote in a blog post I stumbled across today on community-centric business models: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/ChurchOfTheCustomer/~3/101184866/quoteunquote.html Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude, you want to be careful what you say. The word community is trademarked. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=docstate=94m7jv.2.17 Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 12 Mar 2007, at 18:45, Steve Watkins wrote: Oh great the concept of community = $$$ has now reached the lowest levels of our amazing system. Now how many years will it take for them to realise that real communities are unlikely to come together around websites with names like heavywebtraffic. Well I suppose communities of ripped-off desperate naive people could form around such things. Hmm if communities are the new buzzword gateway to instant millions, they need some new jargon, what will replace SEO? Maybe COE, community-oriented exploitation? Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, chris crisrunns@ wrote: Get your own video online community at heavywebtraffic.com. After the class is completed you leave with your ever own online community that can generate you and your users money! check it out! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Collaboration again
Wow that videostring thing was very similar to a daydream I had 2 wekks ago, great to see that someone already tried it. I am fascinated with the idea of video as language, but as they seem very aware, its not obvious exactly how to achieve this, and words are used in video quite a lot, which complicates things if the video is supposed to be alternative to words. Anyway I dont think I have anything clever to say about this stuff, just that its cool and I hope plenty of humans experiment with these sots of alternative possibilites for video. And thanks for the detail on your collaborative process, very interesting. I guess I will have to try spin to learn more about that. Anybody know of any vlogs online that show behind the scenes in a collaboration rather than just the finished result? And does spin provide any way to find people material to work with in the first place? Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use Spin for collaborations. Usually one of us will have an idea, collect some video/audio/text, assemble a rough cut or sketch, compress it, and then drag all the media files into our Wreck Salvage Spinxpress group and hand it off to whomever you are working with at the time. A lot of the time we'll be on IM with each other during the process, coaching, suggesting, brainstorming, about what the video needs, how to achieve certain things. As for the text-to-video idea, Serra from headsoff made this thing last year, which is pretty sweet: http://www.videostring.net/ -Adam On 3/12/07, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The flash meeting chat that Harold highlighted had some interesting talk about collaboration in it too. I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? Anyway I guess there are all sorts of non-technical reasons why collaboration can be a challenge. Having time, being in sync with the others, communicating ideas that may be hard to put into words, differing aims of different people, different inspirations etc, can all get in the way. I would guess that maybe some of these hurdles could be overcome with something similar to the youtube phenomenon - tools that work in the browser easily, and a critical mass of users and content. Im quite interested in systems where there would be millions of very short video fragments available in the system, and peple could construct vidoes from these and their own pieces. I am interested in 'video' type content being created semi-automatically from other sources (eg a text-to-video thing based on keywords that relate to the clip fragments). Ive run out of time to waffle now, any thoughts on this or completely different aspects of the collaboration thang? Cheers Steve Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: flash video
caroosky wrote: Now, if only the portable device manufacturers would get on the ball. I'd love to load up a portable media device with a bunch of flash video from YouTube, Revver, Blip and others... This is coming, but it's not here yet. The next version of the Adobe Flash Lite engine will include support for regular web-video formats: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200702/021207FlashVideo.html Right now Adobe Flash Lite 2 is being baked into phones, and this supports device video, where the Player asks the operating system to play a video, and where different devices could require different video formats. The next version of Adobe Flash Lite will smooth over the differences between pocket devices, and also smooth over the difference between pocket devices and laptop computers, so that you can focus more on your content, less on the formats. It will take awhile to finish and deploy, though. (Good point about the compression process itself being a key determinant in final video quality, thanks.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks.
[videoblogging] Re: Collaboration again
Cheers, thats another exciting service for sure! Has some stuff in common with recent ponderings about non-video media (eg photos text blog) being blended with video into something that you watch. Their implementation so far seems like a clever idea but Im already put off by lots of silly little niggles with the specific way they've done it the layout of their player, but thats just my initial impression. I love the idea that other people can text/mms/email or dragdrop content to be added to that show, great stuff! Ta Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, sull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something I came across recently http://www.cellblock.com sull On 12 Mar 2007 12:01:21 -0700, Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The flash meeting chat that Harold highlighted had some interesting talk about collaboration in it too. I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? Anyway I guess there are all sorts of non-technical reasons why collaboration can be a challenge. Having time, being in sync with the others, communicating ideas that may be hard to put into words, differing aims of different people, different inspirations etc, can all get in the way. I would guess that maybe some of these hurdles could be overcome with something similar to the youtube phenomenon - tools that work in the browser easily, and a critical mass of users and content. Im quite interested in systems where there would be millions of very short video fragments available in the system, and peple could construct vidoes from these and their own pieces. I am interested in 'video' type content being created semi-automatically from other sources (eg a text-to-video thing based on keywords that relate to the clip fragments). Ive run out of time to waffle now, any thoughts on this or completely different aspects of the collaboration thang? Cheers Steve Elbows -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: flash video
Thats great news to hear John, the more formats get properly supported on mobile devices the better, and it sounds like you are taking a good approach in future which will keep things simple for those doing the encoding. To answer Daryl's question, what a lot of people do is encode their video to a mov, mp4 or wmv, and then upload it to a service that converts their video automatically to flash. So then they have 2 versions of the video available, flash and something else, which is a farily good balance for most. But of course there are plenty of videos that are flash only, and plenty that are in multiple formats, so there is not quite a 'golden rule' on this yet, dunno if there ever will be. If when you talk about navigation buttons, you mean like the timeline, play, pause controls for the video, these are taken care of for you if you use a service like blip.tv to make host the flash video. If you are making and hosting the .flv videos yourself, people normally put a .swf player file on their server and that loads the relevant .flv and handles the controls. I could of got some of this detail wrong though, not used flash myself for a few years. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next version of Adobe Flash Lite will smooth over the differences between pocket devices, and also smooth over the difference between pocket devices and laptop computers, so that you can focus more on your content, less on the formats. It will take awhile to finish and deploy, though. -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks.
[videoblogging] Re: Collaboration again
Nice dream :) It could be achieved to a certain extent using the sorts of remoting stuff you are referring to, think something like VNC has a 'view-only' mode? But in practice it wouldnt be ideal for most people to do it that way? What I hope is that online tools make this sort of stuff not only possible, but great, and will evolve to a level where it is very easy for people to collaborate simultaneously on something, or just sit back and watch others using the tools. I would guess so far that online video editing, slideshow, presentation etc online web apps are still in their infancy, but once they reach a certain level of maturity, sooner or later someone will add some crazy features that blow the lid on a rich new spectrum of collaborative possibilities. Love peoples dreams, more dreams please :) Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just dreaming here but what would be cool is if the people you are collaborating with could see what you are doing real time. Almost like remoting in to your PC but completely secure and allowing multiple people. That way as someone is editing you could have someone else looking for the next cut or footage, etcthat would be coolor a big freakin headache.I am hoping cool... Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage quirk@ wrote: We use Spin for collaborations. Usually one of us will have an idea, collect some video/audio/text, assemble a rough cut or sketch, compress it, and then drag all the media files into our Wreck Salvage Spinxpress group and hand it off to whomever you are working with at the time. A lot of the time we'll be on IM with each other during the process, coaching, suggesting, brainstorming, about what the video needs, how to achieve certain things. As for the text-to-video idea, Serra from headsoff made this thing last year, which is pretty sweet: http://www.videostring.net/ -Adam On 3/12/07, Steve Watkins steve@ wrote: The flash meeting chat that Harold highlighted had some interesting talk about collaboration in it too. I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? Anyway I guess there are all sorts of non-technical reasons why collaboration can be a challenge. Having time, being in sync with the others, communicating ideas that may be hard to put into words, differing aims of different people, different inspirations etc, can all get in the way. I would guess that maybe some of these hurdles could be overcome with something similar to the youtube phenomenon - tools that work in the browser easily, and a critical mass of users and content. Im quite interested in systems where there would be millions of very short video fragments available in the system, and peple could construct vidoes from these and their own pieces. I am interested in 'video' type content being created semi-automatically from other sources (eg a text-to-video thing based on keywords that relate to the clip fragments). Ive run out of time to waffle now, any thoughts on this or completely different aspects of the collaboration thang? Cheers Steve Elbows Yahoo! Groups Links -- Adam Quirk Wreck Salvage 551.208.4644 Brooklyn, NY http://wreckandsalvage.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Media Maker Meet up
Join us this Wednesday the 14th in Scottsdale, AZ for a meet and greet. Steve Garfield from http://Steve%20Garfield.com SteveGarfield.com http://SteveGarfield.com will be there as well as Cheryl Colan from the Node 101 Phoenix Chapter. Here are the details: Wednesday March 14th, 2007 from 6-8pm. Drinks and mingling. Cafe ZuZu 6850 E. Main Street Scottsdale, AZ 85251 T: 480.248.2000 Clintus www.idoitdigital.com http://www.idoitdigital.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: flash video
John Dowdell, you are my new best friend! That's awesome news! Since CrowdAbout.us uses Flash extensively, and we have had reservations about jumping into the mobile market, I am always looking to find out more about what's being developed in new releases of the platform. Any chance the next version of flash player will start supporting other formats besides mp3 and .flv? Maybe even do away with the pesky nellymoser codec for FMS recorded audio? (Please please please???) Also, the whole chipmunk effect with mp3s encoded at unsupported bitrates is frustrating to us and tens of thousands of other podcasters who would more readily adopt flash player widgets...can you tell the powers that be to support more bitrates? Sorry, I'm gushing and we've only just met. =) It's just that I feel like I'm sitting in Santa's lap, telling him all the things I want for Christmas... Best, Carter Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: caroosky wrote: Now, if only the portable device manufacturers would get on the ball. I'd love to load up a portable media device with a bunch of flash video from YouTube, Revver, Blip and others... This is coming, but it's not here yet. The next version of the Adobe Flash Lite engine will include support for regular web-video formats: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200702/021207FlashVideo.html Right now Adobe Flash Lite 2 is being baked into phones, and this supports device video, where the Player asks the operating system to play a video, and where different devices could require different video formats. The next version of Adobe Flash Lite will smooth over the differences between pocket devices, and also smooth over the difference between pocket devices and laptop computers, so that you can focus more on your content, less on the formats. It will take awhile to finish and deploy, though. (Good point about the compression process itself being a key determinant in final video quality, thanks.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks.
[videoblogging] I want to meet as many of you as possible at VON
...so please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm going to be in the Bay starting this Thursday and the rest of next week. I'll give you all my contact info. Peace!! --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, [chrisbrogan.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys- Video on the Net is coming up quick. It's a conference about the impact of broadband Internet on TV, Film, and Broadcasting. March 19-22nd in San Jose. Check the schedule at http://www.videoonthenet.com for the speakers list to see who you might like. Jeff Pulver is offering active current videobloggers access to the conference as his guest, provided you show proof of your current videoblog and provided you let me know by the 17th (5 days) that you're coming. If you want to attend, please email me for details. blog at chrisbrogan dot com. Thanks! --Chris...
Re: [videoblogging] Collaboration again
On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? I am so glad you asked. Thanks Steve :) Folks like Ryan Hodson, Jay Dedman and Michael Verdi have shared much of what they have learned working on collaborative projects like AliveInBaghdad, Sawjana and Freevlog. They have documented much of their experiences and best practices on various wikis and vlogs. We have asked them to help us build great tools for use in distributed media production. We have also been working with vloggers like Adam and Erik of WreckAndSalvage, Jan of the FauxPress, Josh Paul, JD Lasica and many others to better understand issues related to collaborative vlogging in particular. This may be old hat for many, but generally speaking, people have an idea and start communicating face2face, on IM, voice/video or via email. Often a team sets up an email list or group like this. Maybe a wiki too. Usually, for us, there's a vlog involved (and possibly an entire website to admin). Maybe there are other related sites and services (e.g., to do lists, feeds, video hosting, audio or video conferences, etc.). Needless to say, there are lots of great tools, services and resources a group can tie into these days. Clips and knowledge gets shared, people edit or augment, share back and review. Iterate. Eventually, a finished result is published (often in several formats and to several hosting and aggregator sites). In many cases, different team members contribute complementary skills and carry out different steps in the workflow. Standard practices evolve and are documented and passed on. The problem is: Multiply that times several interesting project groups over time. It quickly becomes a lot to keep track of. We can help with that. Instead of hunting through tons of emails, feeds or bookmarks, we are using open-source tools to turn p2p file and metadata sharing into a sort of glue for pulling together distributed production teams and their resources. As Jan might say: it's not rocket science, but then again, it's not exactly brushing your teeth either. We try to make it drag drop and point click simple. At this time, we support three basic collaborative activities: get, share and publish. Get helps locate Creative Commons licensed media from places like the Ourmedia/Internet Archive and from within SpinXpress itself. We are also working with several other sites to include access to more media. We spend a fair amount of time talking to people about making their feeds and APIs' more search friendly. Share refers to sharing media, bookmarks, metadata and ideas. The p2p feature you mentioned is part of this, but so are the features that allow commenting, discussion forums, white-board, links, etc. Peered file sharing is performed by the clients, but group content can be accessed from browsers without installing a client. The Publish part is about uploading media through sites like Ourmedia, blip.tv and others and being able to keep track of what is published where. This is primarily a feature of our desktop client, but also reflected in profiles on our website (thus publishing through SpinXpress increases the link love :) ) I'd like to point out that much of this is now visible on our new kick-ass http://SpinXpress.com website that Verdi, Jay, Eric Zimmerman, Chris Ritke and others poured their souls in to. We are so excited about this. You can now browse, find and join cool collaborative projects on the site. This is a major addition to SpinXpress. That's it in a nutshell. I hope it helps explain what we do and how we fit. Thanks for the opportunity to plug something I'm so excited to be working on. --- Markus Sandy http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Collaboration again
I am busy checking out the app and the site. Can't seem to find information on filetypes and cross platform compatibility. Anyone have any thoughts on what file types to use for maximum compatibility. Cheers, Ron Watson On the Web: http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv On Mar 12, 2007, at 7:48 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? I am so glad you asked. Thanks Steve :) Folks like Ryan Hodson, Jay Dedman and Michael Verdi have shared much of what they have learned working on collaborative projects like AliveInBaghdad, Sawjana and Freevlog. They have documented much of their experiences and best practices on various wikis and vlogs. We have asked them to help us build great tools for use in distributed media production. We have also been working with vloggers like Adam and Erik of WreckAndSalvage, Jan of the FauxPress, Josh Paul, JD Lasica and many others to better understand issues related to collaborative vlogging in particular. This may be old hat for many, but generally speaking, people have an idea and start communicating face2face, on IM, voice/video or via email. Often a team sets up an email list or group like this. Maybe a wiki too. Usually, for us, there's a vlog involved (and possibly an entire website to admin). Maybe there are other related sites and services (e.g., to do lists, feeds, video hosting, audio or video conferences, etc.). Needless to say, there are lots of great tools, services and resources a group can tie into these days. Clips and knowledge gets shared, people edit or augment, share back and review. Iterate. Eventually, a finished result is published (often in several formats and to several hosting and aggregator sites). In many cases, different team members contribute complementary skills and carry out different steps in the workflow. Standard practices evolve and are documented and passed on. The problem is: Multiply that times several interesting project groups over time. It quickly becomes a lot to keep track of. We can help with that. Instead of hunting through tons of emails, feeds or bookmarks, we are using open-source tools to turn p2p file and metadata sharing into a sort of glue for pulling together distributed production teams and their resources. As Jan might say: it's not rocket science, but then again, it's not exactly brushing your teeth either. We try to make it drag drop and point click simple. At this time, we support three basic collaborative activities: get, share and publish. Get helps locate Creative Commons licensed media from places like the Ourmedia/Internet Archive and from within SpinXpress itself. We are also working with several other sites to include access to more media. We spend a fair amount of time talking to people about making their feeds and APIs' more search friendly. Share refers to sharing media, bookmarks, metadata and ideas. The p2p feature you mentioned is part of this, but so are the features that allow commenting, discussion forums, white-board, links, etc. Peered file sharing is performed by the clients, but group content can be accessed from browsers without installing a client. The Publish part is about uploading media through sites like Ourmedia, blip.tv and others and being able to keep track of what is published where. This is primarily a feature of our desktop client, but also reflected in profiles on our website (thus publishing through SpinXpress increases the link love :) ) I'd like to point out that much of this is now visible on our new kick-ass http://SpinXpress.com website that Verdi, Jay, Eric Zimmerman, Chris Ritke and others poured their souls in to. We are so excited about this. You can now browse, find and join cool collaborative projects on the site. This is a major addition to SpinXpress. That's it in a nutshell. I hope it helps explain what we do and how we fit. Thanks for the opportunity to plug something I'm so excited to be working on. --- Markus Sandy http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: Media Maker Meet up
Steve will be there around 6 but if anyone would like to join us earlier we will be there around 4. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Clintus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Join us this Wednesday the 14th in Scottsdale, AZ for a meet and greet. Steve Garfield from http://Steve%20Garfield.com SteveGarfield.com http://SteveGarfield.com will be there as well as Cheryl Colan from the Node 101 Phoenix Chapter. Here are the details: Wednesday March 14th, 2007 from 6-8pm. Drinks and mingling. Cafe ZuZu 6850 E. Main Street Scottsdale, AZ 85251 T: 480.248.2000 Clintus www.idoitdigital.com http://www.idoitdigital.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: flash video
so is the best format for flash video a .swf file or are you talking a .flv file format? Daryl
Re: [videoblogging] Collaboration again
On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Ron Watson wrote: I am busy checking out the app and the site. Can't seem to find information on filetypes and cross platform compatibility. all file types are supported. installers availabel for osx and windows. join spinxpress yahoo group if you want to try alpha linux install. Anyone have any thoughts on what file types to use for maximum compatibility. you may find this useful http://media-collaboration.pbwiki.com/VideoWorkflow also, http://aliveinbaghdad.pbwiki.com/AIB%20episode%20format and http://swajana.pbwiki.com/Documentation http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Collaboration again
That's what I was looking for. I decided on the hi-quality single bit h.264. (Are they still charging content creators to encode using DivX?) Any other opinions on how to share hi-quality video? Thanks, Markus! Cheers, Ron Watson On the Web: http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv On Mar 12, 2007, at 8:29 PM, Markus Sandy wrote: On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Ron Watson wrote: I am busy checking out the app and the site. Can't seem to find information on filetypes and cross platform compatibility. all file types are supported. installers availabel for osx and windows. join spinxpress yahoo group if you want to try alpha linux install. Anyone have any thoughts on what file types to use for maximum compatibility. you may find this useful http://media-collaboration.pbwiki.com/VideoWorkflow also, http://aliveinbaghdad.pbwiki.com/AIB%20episode%20format and http://swajana.pbwiki.com/Documentation http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: OH HELL!!!
Oddly. These three boys attend a Quaker run school. I had hiked them to this rather steep and quick ascent and then began shooting. If you heard what I was saying to them it was the opposite of what they did which egged them on. Throw kisses! Of course they exhibited not that.Instead a got a foul and pestulant congregation of vapors (quoting hamlet). shannon --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. I'm pretty much a pacifist - but let's be honest: which of us, standing on a mountaintop, hasn't secretly pretended to be Christopher Lambert in Highlander, spinning round and round, wielding a massive 2000 year old japanese longsword and trying to cut off Sean Connery's head? Rupert http://www.fatgirlinohio.org http://www.crowdabout.us/fatgirlinohio/myshow/ On 12 Mar 2007, at 17:08, Harold Johnson wrote: One thing's for certain: That was another Noble post. I hope you'll be posting during Videoblogging Week 2007, Shannon (April 1-7). Anyway, I can understand Ron's point, though I don't really agree with it. I mean, I can see wanting the video to be more balanced, presenting a counteraction to the violence presented. But this is all nonsense; this is a simple, sweet video of the soccerkids being soccerkids. If any of us are experiencing violence, maybe it's because we're smokin' the blunt, and feelin' peaceful... See, but I'm only on caffeine, and the kicks and punches and flips suit my mood right now. Sincerely, Harold http://videoharold.com On 11 Mar 2007 23:03:48 -0700, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find it interesting that you saw the punches and kicks as violent, but not giving the finger. I think the whole thing is indicative of how so many people these days feel absolutely nothing at all, yet attempt to act as if they do feel something. There's a lot of weird behavior in videos that has no connection to anything at all. I'm talking about grown-ups. These were just kids hamming it up for the camera, and you kind of expect them to do anything when it's their turn to 'perform'. It's always interesting to get other people's perspectives on things. like how some people think squirrels are food. -- Bill C. http://ReelSolid.TV http://reelsolid.tv/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging% 40yahoogroups.com, Ron Watson k9disc@ wrote: I kind of figured that I was going to get the namby pamby label with the analysis. It is soft You can call them 'power moves' and all, but they were punches and kicks, and punches and kicks are gestures of violence. I think they are emulating what they see on TV: punchy, kicky violence, some irreverence, and thankfully they did something that is out of character on TV, and that is to speak for peace. I also really liked it when the camera stopped on the one boy when he was giving the finger. He looked as if he had just gotten caught. It was an interesting video. Ron Watson On the Web: http://pawsitivevybe.com http://k9disc.com http://k9disc.blip.tv On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:21 AM, Markus Sandy wrote: On Mar 11, 2007, at 8:53 PM, Ron Watson wrote: I also didn't care too much for the burst of violence. I guess this is just the hippy in me, but I really wish that were not part of their physical vocabulary so easily expressed and mimicked on film, and it was contagious. ron, why do you see this as violent? some people might just call them power moves is every sudden gesture or move an expression of violence? on the other hand, aren't they emulating what you might see on MTV? good to see you posting shannon --- Markus Sandy http://feeds.feedburner.com/havemoneywillvlog http://feeds.feedburner.com/apperceptions http://feeds.feedburner.com/digitaldojo http://feeds.feedburner.com/spinflow [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Re: flash video
.flv, definitely. The reason is simple. .flv is the bare media file, and .swf takes an .flv, adds a player to play it (and some other optional things that I won't get in to now) and makes a new packaged file that is executable, or will open and play in its own player when clicked. The reason that .flv is the format I prefer is because it gives me the most flexibility in picking players and services to use with my media. For instance, there are many .flv player plugins for WordPress blogs and other embeddable players that require an .flv. But using both is a good strategy too, come to think of it. swf works for getting a video up quickly. flv works when you want to use your video in other ways, such as additional services that require just the media file. Did any of that make sense? Someone else want to take a stab at it? I'm exhausted tonight. Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Daryl Urig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so is the best format for flash video a .swf file or are you talking a .flv file format? Daryl
[videoblogging] Tuesday FlashMeeting
I didn't account for U.S. Daylight Savings, so I think it's an hour ahead: The Tuesday March 13th FlashMeeting is on at 5:30pm - 8pm PST USA, 8:30pm - 11pm EST USA, 0:30am - 3am GMT (March 14th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/64cbe5-7673 You may also check the FlashMeeting page at flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page (I've put up a page off my domain, cirne.com, since voxmedia.com is acting a bit slow lately. I'll also be updating, voxmedia.) -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
[videoblogging] Tuesday March 13/14th FlashMeeting
I didn't account for U.S. Daylight Savings, so I think it's an hour ahead: The Tuesday March 13th FlashMeeting is on at 5:30pm - 8pm PST USA, 8:30pm - 11pm EST USA, 0:30am - 3am GMT (March 14th). Enter through this link: http://flashmeeting.open.ac.uk/fm/64cbe5-7673 You may also check the FlashMeeting page at flashmeeting.cirne.com for future and past Videoblogging FlashMeetings at: http://flashmeeting.cirne.com/index.php?title=Main_Page (I've put up a page off my domain, cirne.com, since voxmedia.com is acting a bit slow lately. I'll also be updating, voxmedia.) -- Enric -==- http://www.cirne.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: flash video
inevitable, but figured it would not begin until end of year. this is great to hear! thanks for the update. sull On 3/12/07, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: caroosky wrote: Now, if only the portable device manufacturers would get on the ball. I'd love to load up a portable media device with a bunch of flash video from YouTube, Revver, Blip and others... This is coming, but it's not here yet. The next version of the Adobe Flash Lite engine will include support for regular web-video formats: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/200702/021207FlashVideo.html Right now Adobe Flash Lite 2 is being baked into phones, and this supports device video, where the Player asks the operating system to play a video, and where different devices could require different video formats. The next version of Adobe Flash Lite will smooth over the differences between pocket devices, and also smooth over the difference between pocket devices and laptop computers, so that you can focus more on your content, less on the formats. It will take awhile to finish and deploy, though. (Good point about the compression process itself being a key determinant in final video quality, thanks.) jd -- John Dowdell . Adobe Developer Support . San Francisco CA USA Weblog: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/jd Aggregator: http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mxna Technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ Spam killed my private email -- public record is best, thanks. -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Re: flash video
this is also good to have for quicktime to handle flv on mac: http://perian.org/ On 12 Mar 2007 20:19:59 -0700, caroosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .flv, definitely. The reason is simple. .flv is the bare media file, and .swf takes an .flv, adds a player to play it (and some other optional things that I won't get in to now) and makes a new packaged file that is executable, or will open and play in its own player when clicked. The reason that .flv is the format I prefer is because it gives me the most flexibility in picking players and services to use with my media. For instance, there are many .flv player plugins for WordPress blogs and other embeddable players that require an .flv. But using both is a good strategy too, come to think of it. swf works for getting a video up quickly. flv works when you want to use your video in other ways, such as additional services that require just the media file. Did any of that make sense? Someone else want to take a stab at it? I'm exhausted tonight. Carter Harkins http://crowdabout.us --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Daryl Urig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so is the best format for flash video a .swf file or are you talking a .flv file format? Daryl -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
[videoblogging] Hi folks, I'm new here!
My name is Shawn Carpenter and I have been vlogging now for about 3 weeks. In those 3 weeks I have managed to put up 5 videos and today I posted my first mobile video. I decided to post all of my work over on Blip.tv. You can view my show here http://loudtourtv.blip.tv/ or subscribe to my feed here http://feeds.feedburner.com/LOUDTourTV The videos also run in conjunction with my blog http://spcbrass.blogspot.com I look forward to more vlogging and seeing what you guys in the community have to offer!
[videoblogging] Please help my new business...I'm seeking a video hosting partner
Dear Friends; I'm working a new project. This project about free video e-mailing. Planning to give everybody free video e-mailing like springdoo.com. This reason I'm searching a video publisher partner. I will directly paying this partner for this video publishing or revenue sharing my ad's income. I'm thinking videoegg. What are you thinking? I'm waiting your offers or forwarding. Thanks -- Regards Gokcen Karan SKYPE : gokcenkaran [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.momentsinturkey.org http://www.gokcenkaran.org - Who's John Galt? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Collaboration again
i cant seem to login to spinxpress and request new passwd isnt sending me anything. i cant see where to register a new username either. On 12 Mar 2007 16:48:06 -0700, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mar 12, 2007, at 12:01 PM, Steve Watkins wrote: I guess its a subject that comes up quite often here, and yet I never ending up recording much progress on that front. I know a stock answer has become 'use spinxpress' and clearly it must work and be good because it comes recommended by some people who will ahve used it for such purposes. As I havent used it myself I remain pretty ignorant about exactly what it offers beyond peer2peer filesharing, anybody got a few moments to elaborate on how it fits into the process, and what sort of collaborative processes fit well with this tool? I am so glad you asked. Thanks Steve :) Folks like Ryan Hodson, Jay Dedman and Michael Verdi have shared much of what they have learned working on collaborative projects like AliveInBaghdad, Sawjana and Freevlog. They have documented much of their experiences and best practices on various wikis and vlogs. We have asked them to help us build great tools for use in distributed media production. We have also been working with vloggers like Adam and Erik of WreckAndSalvage, Jan of the FauxPress, Josh Paul, JD Lasica and many others to better understand issues related to collaborative vlogging in particular. This may be old hat for many, but generally speaking, people have an idea and start communicating face2face, on IM, voice/video or via email. Often a team sets up an email list or group like this. Maybe a wiki too. Usually, for us, there's a vlog involved (and possibly an entire website to admin). Maybe there are other related sites and services (e.g., to do lists, feeds, video hosting, audio or video conferences, etc.). Needless to say, there are lots of great tools, services and resources a group can tie into these days. Clips and knowledge gets shared, people edit or augment, share back and review. Iterate. Eventually, a finished result is published (often in several formats and to several hosting and aggregator sites). In many cases, different team members contribute complementary skills and carry out different steps in the workflow. Standard practices evolve and are documented and passed on. The problem is: Multiply that times several interesting project groups over time. It quickly becomes a lot to keep track of. We can help with that. Instead of hunting through tons of emails, feeds or bookmarks, we are using open-source tools to turn p2p file and metadata sharing into a sort of glue for pulling together distributed production teams and their resources. As Jan might say: it's not rocket science, but then again, it's not exactly brushing your teeth either. We try to make it drag drop and point click simple. At this time, we support three basic collaborative activities: get, share and publish. Get helps locate Creative Commons licensed media from places like the Ourmedia/Internet Archive and from within SpinXpress itself. We are also working with several other sites to include access to more media. We spend a fair amount of time talking to people about making their feeds and APIs' more search friendly. Share refers to sharing media, bookmarks, metadata and ideas. The p2p feature you mentioned is part of this, but so are the features that allow commenting, discussion forums, white-board, links, etc. Peered file sharing is performed by the clients, but group content can be accessed from browsers without installing a client. The Publish part is about uploading media through sites like Ourmedia, blip.tv and others and being able to keep track of what is published where. This is primarily a feature of our desktop client, but also reflected in profiles on our website (thus publishing through SpinXpress increases the link love :) ) I'd like to point out that much of this is now visible on our new kick-ass http://SpinXpress.com website that Verdi, Jay, Eric Zimmerman, Chris Ritke and others poured their souls in to. We are so excited about this. You can now browse, find and join cool collaborative projects on the site. This is a major addition to SpinXpress. That's it in a nutshell. I hope it helps explain what we do and how we fit. Thanks for the opportunity to plug something I'm so excited to be working on. --- Markus Sandy http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- Sull http://vlogdir.com (a project) http://SpreadTheMedia.org (my blog) http://interdigitate.com (otherly) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [videoblogging] Collaboration again
On Mar 12, 2007, at 11:01 PM, sull wrote: i cant seem to login to spinxpress and request new passwd isnt sending me anything. hi sull. if you tell me your SpinXpress registration email off-list, i will look into this and see what happened. i cant see where to register a new username either. you can register as many usernames as you like on the download page (just ignore the download prompt after filling out the registration if you already have the software or just want to work off the website). http://spinxpress.com/download -- http://SpinXpress.com/Markus_Sandy http://Ourmedia.org/Markus_Sandy [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
