I felt exactly the same way when he played for four hours in Iowa City. Unfortunately I missed him @ DEMF, although I guess I didn't miss much??? I posted this about Adam Beyer after seeing T1000 and Hawtin here, but it's mostly about Hawtin:
>>> this whole discussion reminds me of how I felt about Hawtin and DJ-T1000 when I saw them in Iowa City on separate occasions this spring. I haven't heard Beyer spin, but hear he's very good. However, if it's anything like Hawtin (who is undeniably a technical master), I think I would have the same longing for some kind of melody and drum loops that last more than a bar. As I understand it, this is typical of the European techno DJing style. I don't even feel motivated to dance once the drone sets in. Since seeing Alan spin, I've read his posts with a sense of awe, in that he tends to be the designated advocate for beating techno sets, but his performance here was as funky as any I've heard (I think he clarifies his feelings on this below). He plays music with a funk core, but still tends to have aggressive beats. I did not get the same feeling from Hawtin at all. While I can marvel at what he doing with the raw materials, I don't particularly care for them. Seeing him spin was very cerebral for me, but I don't suspect this would be true for a non-DJ, or someone who doesn't know what it takes to create flawlessly at that speed. I think I have a pretty unusual feeling about this, because it's not often that beats will make me dance. I have to be into the music on some mental level before my body will respond. However, I have a purely artistic interest in watching and listening to someone beat records I don't care for, and tend to enjoy this without dancing. Weird?<<< Tristan ========================================== PHONOPSIA<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/5102/index.htm "FrogboyMCI" on AOL Instant Messenger New mix, "Propper Techno" and new Album, "Québécois", online now. -----Original Message----- From: Peter B Leidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 313@hyperreal.org <313@hyperreal.org> Date: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:41 PM Subject: [313] Richie Rich >Okay, I was hoping somebody would have brought this up already so that I >wouldnt have to- but as nobody has really tackled it, and I think it needs >some attention: > >Was anyone else disappointed with mr hawtins set to close the demf? > >I cant speak on the entire performance because I left after the first hour >out of boredom, but that was some of the most boring 4ontheFloor 909 stuff >I've heard in a while. I dont remember a single bassline in any of the >tracks. Most of the synth stuff from the vinyl got buried under the 909 >kick/snare/hihat/ride -which i believe someone did mention briefly as >perhaps a fault of the sound engineer. The builds and snare rolls were >cheesy and formulated crowd pleasers and I think even the crowd was >getting bored of them after the first five or six. > >Now I hate badmouthing mr hawtin, as i have heard and seen him do plenty >of great things for the music community, and I have enjoyed a handful >of his sets via detroit parties around '94-95. It was even quite >impressive watching him juggle all his stuff at demf and do 909 >programming on the fly, but the outcome just seemed pretty boring. Not >even any of those trademark plastikman funky rimshot rhythms. just >kick,snare,hihat,ride- w/ very little variety in the different beats. > >Perhaps I am missing something conceptually behind this 'cause I dont >really know anything about his ideas for doing the decks/efx/909 thing, >and I may be overlooking some fundamental part to this stuff- I've never >been too into the bangin' 4ontheFloor stuff as much anyways- so perhaps >I'm not the best critic of it. > >I think just after hearing a lot of great music from derrick w/ plenty of >soul and tribally rhythm stuff going on, the 909 just couldn't follow it >up for me. > >comments please... > >-p > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
