thanks - that is the point i was trying to make
dustin

On Sun, 11 Jun 2000 00:25:35 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In a message dated 11/06/00 8:16:36 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > It's interesting as 'trance' has changed in its definition over 
> time so that
> >  a diversity of artists and music from different  subcultures and 
> generations
> >  now goes under that title. I remember someone saying that 
> Waveform
> >  Transmission Vol 1 was 'trancey' - I still don't hear that. But 
> now when
> >  people say 'techno trance' I think of someone like Timo Maas - 
> commercial
> >  trance with elements of commercial techno, very derivative. Even 
> Seb
> >  Fontaine is going down that route. It may be a personal thing, 
> but I ain't
> >  feeling it. And, as for Oliver Lieb, I put him, rightly and 
> wrongly, in the
> >  same bracket as Moby. I just don't get him at all. The most 
> soul-less
> >  'underground' DJ and producer I have ever heard. 
> >  
> 
> My understanding of trance music has always been in the core of 
> reptitive 
> rhythm-ic sounds which are capable of inducing that 'state of mind' 
> which is 
> trancendent of normal conciousness. Alright I might be sounding a 
> bit 
> spiritual here, but isn't this music also intertwined with 
> spirituality 
> anyway? So using this as a basis, I always thought of trance music 
> as mostly 
> techno related rhythms of the minimal repetition field - Maurizio/ 
> Basic 
> Channel/ Chain Reaction and anything in vein of tribal drumming/ 
> rhythms and 
> shamanistic or religious rituals. Dub music has also always had a 
> heavy 
> trance element in its intent. And I hear a lot of native American 
> Indian 
> trance-like percussions in 313 music especially in UR (Mad Mike's 
> one-half 
> native indian), Rolando, Octave One, Dark Energy...  
> 
> Most of techno is trance-based music, but not the "TRANCE" music 
> that is 
> heavily genre-rised and marketed by the media (speed-garage, jungle 
> and other 
> inane marketing categories). So before anyone else gets caught up in 
> any 
> semantic or genre misunderstandings, lets dispose of the Trance 
> marketed 
> genre and hopefully talk about the music without its media 
> underpinnings 
> 
> 
> A_Zed
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