You have helped to see things differently......and yes, let's let this
thread die soon

bye
fab

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter B Leidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music


> I think this is definitely socio-cultural, more so than biological. The
> reason being- this is not native to electronic music - this is true to
> about 80% (guesstimation) of specialized fields of study, work, arts, etc.
>
> I'm sure you could join mailing lists on any style of music and find the
> same thread. And generally I think its not the attitude of the scene
> itself that suppresses female representation, but something that has been
> plagueing society for ages.
>
> I think its totally lame when people try to pinpoint this problem to
> something so scene-specific as "repetitive music" or some aspect that just
> kind of repels women- you need to look at the bigger picture. Thats the
> only way we're really going to overcome a problem of this magnitude. You
> can start taking action in a specific corner of society- but you've gotta
> realize that thats just the beginning. or to coin a phrase
> (&/or bumpersticker) - think globally,act locally.
>
> please end this thread soon, thanks.
>
> -p
>
> On Thu, 5 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Isn't that a bit of a sweeping statement in itself - it's cultural,
> > not biological?
> > Sure, there must be hundreds of factors why women aren't
> > as well presented as men, that's the whole point in undertaking
> > such a difficult project right?
> > I was simply pointing out one factor that immediately occurs to
> > me. I'd say most people on this list are at least a little obsessive
> > about techno, that's the reason we read it day in day out.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > http://www.mp3.com/DanButler
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: b3kka [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 05 October 2000 14:48
> > > To: 313
> > > Subject: Re: [313] R: [313] women and electronic music
> > >
> > > u really think it's a question of obsessiveness?!  what about the
> > > gatekeeping factors and everything else that women have to endure to
make
> > > it
> > > in a predominantly male scene.  i can't believe u just said that!  or
the
> > > fact that technological has predominantly been seen and treated as
part of
> > > the public sphere which has until recently been occupied solely by
men?
> > > there are a ton of factors that come into play here.  women are not
> > > BIOLOGICALLY less obsessive than men...it's CULTURAL and not
biological.
> > >
> > > k, i'll try to stop now.  but this project is definitely going to
happen.
> > > so for everyone who's responded to my plea for help thus far...thank u
> > > very
> > > much and you'll be hearing from me soon...cuz it's about time.
> > >
> > > bekka.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > > One major biological reason seems to be that women simply
> > > > aren't as obsessive as men (sure, there are exceptions as with
> > > > all things).
> > > > Obsessiveness (hmm, my spell checker doesn't recognise this
> > > > word!!) is a key factor in the time it takes to learn to DJ, learn
to
> > > > write tracks etc>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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