"I would say that music is like an injection, straight to the blood. The
moment you hear the music, the music can heal you. If you're suffering from
a fever or malaria and you hear the music, you'll be dancing all over and
you'll sweat and you won't even remember that you're sick. It's just like
that. Everybody has this in their blood. When you play the music, it goes
from your ears to the body. By the time you realize where you are, then you
say 'what is this? Am I crazy?' But within a second, you'll jump up again
and feel good. You listen to music, then your mind will go far away, even to
heaven where you can discuss with the holy angels of God. That's why they
say that music is the soul of life. It is the same thing all over the world.
Music is in the blood. When you play good music, you transfer it to other
people. The moment that you get the music and it stays with you and your
mind, you see an invisible injection straight to your blood. That's why they
say music can heal, which I believe. When you listen, you will forget that
you're suffering from pain. The moment that the pain goes off, it doesn't
come back. That's my belief."
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, Counting ????? All is about rhythm!
From: arora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: tristan watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Re: Mixing and musical structure
Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:45:37 -0400 (EDT)
not to start an out of control thread, but i thought i'd put in my $.02
as a beginner dj. i think if i tried to count, i'd probably f*ck up even
more (which would be a very bad thing)
instead of spending my energy on counting or whatever, i just try and
listen and feel it. (hope you all aren't gagging right now.) anyway, i
don't think the counting rule is the end all rule for all.
i listen to music purely for pleasure<-- (i'm rereading this wondering
who doesn't...but anyway) . i started djing cause i have a short attention
span (and i love techno.) it seems like literal counting in the beginning
would make the whole listening experience for a beginner dj even more
frustrating. props to the counters who stuck it out.
-m
On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, tristan watkins wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, M. Todd Smith wrote:
> >
> > > If you learned to DJ by counting then you missed
> > the point, DJ'ing is about
> > > listening not counting. Just because you don't
> > count doesn't mean you
> > > aren't aware of the beat. When people dance they
> > are very aware of the beat
> > > (some even stop if the DJ brings in an offbeat
> > mix), I know when I dance I
> > > don't count, and it would by my fervent belief
> > that no one else does either.
>
> Absolutely agreed. You can usually hear where to cue
> up the record and start matching things from. However,
> I suspect I am "counting", just no in any literal
> sense. But, this depends on knowing you records (see
> below)
>
> > > The best DJ's I have ever met can pick up a record
> > they have never heard
> > > before and throw it down like they've owned it
> > forever. This is the
> > > intuitive knowledge of musical structure gained
> > through listening and paying
> > > attention to music.
>
> This may be partially true with one new record, if
> it's of a standard format, with nothing too surprising
> happening along the way, and the DJ takes some time to
> familiarize him/herself with the track before throwing
> it in, but it isn't true with two new records you've
> never heard before, unless they're trance records
> maybe. Also, I bet most of the best DJs would tell you
> they can't do this with any record. It just isn't that
> easy. You can usually rely on changes occuring every
> eight bars, and larger changes around every fourth set
> of eight bars, but lots of songs deviate from this,
> and this is just sort of a basic rule for the most
> standard of formats. Even then, if you don't know the
> record lots of surprising things can happen to throw
> off subtle EQing, two big bass lines might collide,
> whatever. You gotta know your records.
>
> Disclaimer: I know that's a total oversimplification,
> and that's my point.
>
> Tristan
>
> > > Perhaps the reason behind your disconcertation
> > with Isotope 127 is that you
> > > are internally trying to count, instead of
> > listening, and feeling the
> > > rhythm. Just my 2 cents
> > >
> > > Todd
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Hillegonda Rietveld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2000 11:02 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [313] Re: Mixing and musical
> > structure
> > >
> > >
> > > > hello,
> > > >
> > > > I guess it all depends on what you mean by
> > internalizing. If you do not
> > > > count time, or are unware of it, chances are you
> > probably suck. If you
> > > > can count time and be aware of bar changes
> > without it taking most of the
> > > > space in your conscious mind you are probably
> > better off. It used to be
> > > > that I would have to use my fingers to count the
> > bars while counting
> > > > time, then I counted them verbally in my head,
> > and nowadays in the back
> > > > of my mind I just see that bars coming and going
> > while I think about
> > > > other things. You are both right in a sense. You
> > have to be aware of
> > > > time, but it cannot be all that you are aware
> > of.
> > > >
> > > > I saw isotope 217 play a month or so ago, their
> > structures were alot
> > > > more complicated than the usual dance stuff. I
> > had a very difficult time
> > > > keeping up with everything that was going on, it
> > was very pleasant
> > > > actually, been a long time since I have heard
> > something that made me
> > > > feel absolutely bewildered. why does music seem
> > less magical the more
> > > > you understand how it works?
> > > >
> > > > I will shut up now.
> > > >
> > > > take care,
> > > > Mike
> > > >
> > > > Hillegonda Rietveld wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hillegonda;
> > > > > Yes, it helps to know about musical structure
> > before embarking on
> > > mixing -
> > > > > how otherwise can one distinguish beats, bars
> > and sections?
> > > > >
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> > > > > - wut? you actually just need to be able to
> > count.
> > > > > -----------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope you're joking - what do you count to?
> > 3? 4? one bar? 15? counting
> > > is
> > > > > for nippers in toddler trunks who are in
> > learning stage - when you
> > > > > actually DJ, you need to have internalised the
> > structure and other
> > > aspects
> > > > > of your musical selection. Only then can you
> > play from the heart, be the
> > > > > music and play with flow rather than act out
> > some sad calculator without
> > > > > direction.
> > > > >
> > > > > To use a parallel example: if you are in the
> > middle of some busy
> > > traffic,
> > > > > do you count distance, speed and accelleration
> > when crossing the road or
> > > > > overtaking a car? I hope not, by the time
> > you'd rationally achieved
> > > that,
> > > > > you'd be dead.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hillegonda.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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