On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 02:19, Aaron-Carl <aaronc...@aaroncarl.com> wrote:
> Before this gets out of hand, let me say this:  Personally, I have no qualms
> about Dubstep. My response was not to be misconstrued as a "bash dubstep"
> post.  HOWEVER, the part that really bothered me (and YES, I'm sensitive
> about it) is when someone classified it as "The New Detroit."
>
> Eclecticism and perpetual reinvention?  Absolutely.   In fact, that's one of
> the reasons why I like dubstep.  But here's something I'd like for you to
> acknowledge.  People remember HEADLINES.  Writers are basically taught to
> engage their readers with a powerful HEADLINE.  And as a Detroit artist,
> that particular headline spoke volumes to ME.  It said, in so many words,
> "Detroit is dead.  Out with the old, in with the new..."  And I guarantee
> you I'm not the ONLY Detroit artist who read it that way.
>
> Mind you, I could've simply dismissed the headline.  But that's only
> worsening the problem.  I have no problem with evolution -- in fact, it's
> how I SURVIVE.  But SOMEBODY needed to step up and say to those who might
> see exactly what I saw in that headline, "WE ARE STILL HERE."
>
> Detroit already has a bad reputation, to begin with.

Well then that fits, because Croydon, which is the new Detroit, is
just the right place to get stabbed!

D.

>  From the "joke of a
> mayor" we used to have, to having the "dumbest kids in the nation," the LAST
> thing we need is somebody saying to a new generation of music listeners that
> Croydon -- or anywhere else -- is the "New Detroit."
>
> A better headline could've compared Croydon's evolution to Detroit.  But
> unlike what a lot of popular articles suggest, Detroit is NOT an adjective.
>  Detroit is HOME.  And when someone or something threatens YOUR home, it's
> only natural that you defend it...
>
> Aaron-Carl
>
>
>
> On 3/10/2010 7:49 PM, Jeffrey J Davis wrote:
>>
>> Cool that Shake posted a comment to the article acknowledging the funk.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Jeffrey J. Davis
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>>
>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Tristan Watkins
>> <phonop...@googlemail.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 10/03/2010 22:23, kent williams wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the article makes some good points but mostly in the context
>>>> of the UK, where musical sub-genres are written about as though they
>>>> were stars in their own right.
>>>>
>>>> The Detroit attitude is, I'd hope, more eclectic, and the musicians I
>>>> talk to think more in terms of good or bad than this genre or that
>>>> genre. So I can talk with Alan Oldham about Creation Records Shoegazer
>>>> bands, and with Shake about Cooly G.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The way I read it, he was saying that eclecticism and perpetual
>>> reinvention is precisely what makes dubstep (so far) like the early days of
>>> Detroit techno - that it is evolving very quickly, pulling in influences
>>> from all over the shop and is difficult to pin down. I think that's a fair
>>> point. If you listen to a lot of the best dubstep producers' DJ sets you'll
>>> find influences from all over the last 25 years and within the various
>>> styles of dubstep.
>>>
>>> Also, I think there's a misperception that it's just kids making this
>>> stuff. Untold has been producing since '93 according to this RA article:
>>> http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1105
>>>
>>> Not that I think the comparison can stretch for miles or that anyone
>>> should take it out of context.
>>>
>>> Ultimately, I'm just getting a bit irritated with people making more out
>>> of it than it is or of writing it off altogether. Whether it's to everyone's
>>> taste is one thing but I would hope it's evident that this isn't narrow or
>>> purely derivative. In my mind it's one of the more interesting things to
>>> happen in a long time precisely because it's not as narrow and codified as
>>> any of the previous big electronic music trends. It's almost the complete
>>> opposite.
>>>
>>> Tristan
>>>
>>
>>
>
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