On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 02:19, Aaron-Carl <aaronc...@aaroncarl.com> wrote: > Before this gets out of hand, let me say this: Personally, I have no qualms > about Dubstep. My response was not to be misconstrued as a "bash dubstep" > post. HOWEVER, the part that really bothered me (and YES, I'm sensitive > about it) is when someone classified it as "The New Detroit." > > Eclecticism and perpetual reinvention? Absolutely. In fact, that's one of > the reasons why I like dubstep. But here's something I'd like for you to > acknowledge. People remember HEADLINES. Writers are basically taught to > engage their readers with a powerful HEADLINE. And as a Detroit artist, > that particular headline spoke volumes to ME. It said, in so many words, > "Detroit is dead. Out with the old, in with the new..." And I guarantee > you I'm not the ONLY Detroit artist who read it that way. > > Mind you, I could've simply dismissed the headline. But that's only > worsening the problem. I have no problem with evolution -- in fact, it's > how I SURVIVE. But SOMEBODY needed to step up and say to those who might > see exactly what I saw in that headline, "WE ARE STILL HERE." > > Detroit already has a bad reputation, to begin with.
Well then that fits, because Croydon, which is the new Detroit, is just the right place to get stabbed! D. > From the "joke of a > mayor" we used to have, to having the "dumbest kids in the nation," the LAST > thing we need is somebody saying to a new generation of music listeners that > Croydon -- or anywhere else -- is the "New Detroit." > > A better headline could've compared Croydon's evolution to Detroit. But > unlike what a lot of popular articles suggest, Detroit is NOT an adjective. > Detroit is HOME. And when someone or something threatens YOUR home, it's > only natural that you defend it... > > Aaron-Carl > > > > On 3/10/2010 7:49 PM, Jeffrey J Davis wrote: >> >> Cool that Shake posted a comment to the article acknowledging the funk. >> >> thanks, >> >> Jeffrey J. Davis >> President& COO, AGY >> fon: +1.218.8332847 (21883DAVIS) >> fax: +1.803.643.4085 >> cel: +86.158.0184.9459 >> jeff.da...@agy.com / jeffrey.james.da...@gmail.com >> jeffrey.james.davis JeffreyJDavis >> >> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Tristan Watkins >> <phonop...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 10/03/2010 22:23, kent williams wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I think the article makes some good points but mostly in the context >>>> of the UK, where musical sub-genres are written about as though they >>>> were stars in their own right. >>>> >>>> The Detroit attitude is, I'd hope, more eclectic, and the musicians I >>>> talk to think more in terms of good or bad than this genre or that >>>> genre. So I can talk with Alan Oldham about Creation Records Shoegazer >>>> bands, and with Shake about Cooly G. >>>> >>> >>> The way I read it, he was saying that eclecticism and perpetual >>> reinvention is precisely what makes dubstep (so far) like the early days of >>> Detroit techno - that it is evolving very quickly, pulling in influences >>> from all over the shop and is difficult to pin down. I think that's a fair >>> point. If you listen to a lot of the best dubstep producers' DJ sets you'll >>> find influences from all over the last 25 years and within the various >>> styles of dubstep. >>> >>> Also, I think there's a misperception that it's just kids making this >>> stuff. Untold has been producing since '93 according to this RA article: >>> http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1105 >>> >>> Not that I think the comparison can stretch for miles or that anyone >>> should take it out of context. >>> >>> Ultimately, I'm just getting a bit irritated with people making more out >>> of it than it is or of writing it off altogether. Whether it's to everyone's >>> taste is one thing but I would hope it's evident that this isn't narrow or >>> purely derivative. In my mind it's one of the more interesting things to >>> happen in a long time precisely because it's not as narrow and codified as >>> any of the previous big electronic music trends. It's almost the complete >>> opposite. >>> >>> Tristan >>> >> >> > > > -- > Aaron-Carl > > web: http://aaroncarl.com > facebook: http://facebook.com/aaroncarl313 > twitter: http://twitter.com/aaroncarl > myspace: http://myspace.com/aaroncarl > >