men don't like it when you call them sexists. that doesn't mean that they're feminists.
super cheeky. i didn't have anything else of note to say the first read through and i'm not going to go back and read again. *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* *ethnomusicologist* *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work>* On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Christiaan Macdonald < christi...@societyfools.com> wrote: > cheeky example, sure. but im just stating facts here and i think you were > the first to bring up sexism in this thread. > > anyway its interesting you just respond to the ike and tina turner bit, > but stay silent on the rest of my message. > > > Christiaan A. Macdonald > > Director of Fools > Society Fools > > Oudekerksplein 26 > 1012 GZ Amsterdam > The Netherlands > > www.societyfools.com > > > > > > On 18 Aug 2017, at 23:05, Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > "before he beat the shit out of her" > > no need to trigger every woman on the list. > > it really is okay to talk about music without sexism. lots of people do it > all the time. > > *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* > *ethnomusicologist* > *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work/>* > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 5:00 PM, christiaan <christi...@societyfools.com> > wrote: > >> oh please. its nothing to do with that, its about talent. there are good >> producers and bad ones, pretty much like music. >> >> before he beat the shit out of her it was ike *and* turner. there was >> marvin *and* diana. they got picked because they were talented - usually >> they sang their ass off in church - and somehow they got signed to a label >> because an a&r saw the potential to make money. simple economics. >> >> there is this consensus lately that there should be more female djs, >> because there are so few female dj’s. festivals are now booking female djs, >> because they feel the pressure to do so. ugh, the entitlement.. >> >> there have been great female producers/djs for a long time, successful >> ones too. just not that many. but there have been many great female >> performers for as long as their is an entertainment industry. so i guess >> not that many women thought being a producer or dj. there are more popping >> up recently and although thats a great thing, all that talk about it is >> really annoying. >> >> then again, i am a male and white and privileged… >> >> >> >> On 18 Aug 2017, at 21:27, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> The only way gender will be gotten over is when sexism, homophobia, and >> transphobia are done. I love this thread. >> >> On Aug 18, 2017, at 15:21, christiaan76 <gotrecord...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> exactly. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 18, 2017, at 21:09, Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> More generally: why is this gender thing so important? Can't we get over >> it already.. >> >> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Cole Evelev <cole.eve...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Sorry about that. This is who I was referencing. >>> >>> https://www.discogs.com/Powder-H/release/9983256 >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >> >> > >