my point is sexism is real and men should be fighting to end it, not crying that everything's hard for everyone.
*Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* *ethnomusicologist* *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work>* On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Denise Dalphond <denisedalph...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> "Have any of you ever attended those electronic music events events with >> *exclusively* female artists? >> >> I have. And in a lot of cases it seemed really awkward -- like the >> reason they were selected as performers was due to their sex/gender over >> their accomplishments as a performer/musician. (To say nothing of the male >> patrons weirdly 'gawking' over them, which is also super creepy. A >> separate issue unto itself.)" >> >> You are failing to view those events through the lens of a girl or woman. >> It is often empowering. >> > > How presumptuous of you? > > I went to a number of those events and the other (female) attendees I was > with were the ones who observed it first. I have been to some that were > frankly quite objectifying. > > >> And your taste in music does not match someone else's taste. >> > > No shit it doesn't, we're on a list called "313" which itself is about as > marginal as it gets. > > >> I can imagine a young girl or young woman looking up at the stage, >> reading the lineup, researching the female artists she liked; that >> experience is life changing in a sexist world. >> >> A roll call is fine. To what end: in order to learn about more artists >> who are women because patriarchy makes them harder to come by. >> > > I still think it is poor form to not explain what makes them relevant or > interesting. It is already hard enough to talk about music with words, let > alone to not use any. > > Moreover I don't think I understand the substance of your point about as > to why the "patriarchy makes them harder to come by." > > I think it is hard to get recognized as a musician or producer no matter > *who* you are or *what* your background is. >
