The simple fact that it is hard for anyone here to name more than a handful of female producers is, in itself, a reason to mention them. Clearly, the music should be judged for itself, but in an ecosystem that is 95% (guessing here) male, there is indeed some merit in just identifying female producers in order to hold them up, track down their music, and judge for oneself whether it is worthy of praise independent of the context of the maker.
However, the fact is that most music cannot be judged independent of the identity of the maker. Techno is unique in that respect since it is largely visually anonymous and devoid of vocals. I proffer that from a male perspective it seems easy to say “just get over it and judge the music based on the music” but that does not take into account the possible reasons for wanting to listen to and seeking out female produced music, and the possible systemic challenges women and girls face both in learning to produce music and getting it published and distributed. (I’m couching this with “possible” here because I’m LONG out of the scene and the internet has changed a lot. But I don’t think it’s changed many ingrained attitudes and knee-jerk reactions….) From: Peter Bense [mailto:textur...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 4:30 PM To: Holly MacDonald-Korth Cc: denisedalph...@gmail.com; christiaan76; Cole Evelev; Matthew Kane; kent williams; Aidan O'Doherty; Marsel van der Wielen; list 313; Suzanne Heinrichs; 3...@coke-smyth.net Subject: Re: Female Producers Have any of you ever attended those electronic music events events with exclusively female artists? I have. And in a lot of cases it seemed really awkward -- like the reason they were selected as performers was due to their sex/gender over their accomplishments as a performer/musician. (To say nothing of the male patrons weirdly 'gawking' over them, which is also super creepy. A separate issue unto itself.) So here we are listing out producers/djs, etc. and not discussing their works or what makes them good (maybe one or two have, but most replies haven't). That turns this into an ad-hoc roll call. Which again sort of reminds of those types of events I just mentioned. To what end? How about indicate what makes them interesting to mention here, aside from their sex/gender? That would seem like a more favorable way to approach this discussion, while crediting them appropriately. On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Holly MacDonald-Korth <hko...@jwkorth.com<mailto:hko...@jwkorth.com>> wrote: Exactly. From: denisedalph...@gmail.com<mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com> [mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com<mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com>] Sent: Friday, August 18, 2017 3:27 PM To: christiaan76 Cc: Peter Bense; Cole Evelev; Matthew Kane; kent williams; Aidan O'Doherty; Marsel van der Wielen; list 313; Suzanne Heinrichs; 3...@coke-smyth.net<mailto:3...@coke-smyth.net> Subject: Re: Female Producers The only way gender will be gotten over is when sexism, homophobia, and transphobia are done. I love this thread. On Aug 18, 2017, at 15:21, christiaan76 <gotrecord...@gmail.com<mailto:gotrecord...@gmail.com>> wrote: exactly. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 18, 2017, at 21:09, Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com<mailto:textur...@gmail.com>> wrote: More generally: why is this gender thing so important? Can't we get over it already.. On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Cole Evelev <cole.eve...@gmail.com<mailto:cole.eve...@gmail.com>> wrote: Sorry about that. This is who I was referencing. https://www.discogs.com/Powder-H/release/9983256 Sent from my iPhone
