"Have any of you ever attended those electronic music events events with *exclusively* female artists?
I have. And in a lot of cases it seemed really awkward -- like the reason they were selected as performers was due to their sex/gender over their accomplishments as a performer/musician. (To say nothing of the male patrons weirdly 'gawking' over them, which is also super creepy. A separate issue unto itself.)" You are failing to view those events through the lens of a girl or woman. It is often empowering. And your taste in music does not match someone else's taste. I can imagine a young girl or young woman looking up at the stage, reading the lineup, researching the female artists she liked; that experience is life changing in a sexist world. A roll call is fine. To what end: in order to learn about more artists who are women because patriarchy makes them harder to come by. *Denise Dalphond, Ph.D.* *ethnomusicologist* *schoolcraftwax.work <http://schoolcraftwax.work>* On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com> wrote: > Have any of you ever attended those electronic music events events with > *exclusively* female artists? > > I have. And in a lot of cases it seemed really awkward -- like the reason > they were selected as performers was due to their sex/gender over their > accomplishments as a performer/musician. (To say nothing of the male > patrons weirdly 'gawking' over them, which is also super creepy. A > separate issue unto itself.) > > So here we are listing out producers/djs, etc. and not discussing their > works or what makes them good (maybe one or two have, but most replies > haven't). > > That turns this into an ad-hoc roll call. Which again sort of reminds of > those types of events I just mentioned. To what end? > > How about indicate what makes them interesting to mention here, aside from > their sex/gender? That would seem like a more favorable way to approach > this discussion, while crediting them appropriately. > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Holly MacDonald-Korth < > hko...@jwkorth.com> wrote: > >> Exactly. >> >> >> >> *From:* denisedalph...@gmail.com [mailto:denisedalph...@gmail.com] >> *Sent:* Friday, August 18, 2017 3:27 PM >> *To:* christiaan76 >> *Cc:* Peter Bense; Cole Evelev; Matthew Kane; kent williams; Aidan >> O'Doherty; Marsel van der Wielen; list 313; Suzanne Heinrichs; >> 3...@coke-smyth.net >> *Subject:* Re: Female Producers >> >> >> >> The only way gender will be gotten over is when sexism, homophobia, and >> transphobia are done. I love this thread. >> >> >> On Aug 18, 2017, at 15:21, christiaan76 <gotrecord...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> exactly. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> On Aug 18, 2017, at 21:09, Peter Bense <textur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> More generally: why is this gender thing so important? Can't we get over >> it already.. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Cole Evelev <cole.eve...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Sorry about that. This is who I was referencing. >> >> >> >> https://www.discogs.com/Powder-H/release/9983256 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >