>Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 01:05:49 +0100
>From: Danny Wolfers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: [313] not black enough...
>
>> > >Well...I think the biggest concern with dance music is that it
>> > becomes synonymous with the trippy drug scene.  We're definitely
>> > moving towards that.....
>>
>> > Hey, what's wrong with bringing a little "trippiness" into the music??
>
>Trippiness is like communism an evil thing and should not be in your
>beautifull american music., If you start with a "little" trippiness in music
>it doesn't take a while before all beauty of music is gone! You'll get good
>producers saying: "Ah..we must be trippy..well hmm...lets get rid of all
>that melody and musical coherence and just throw in f*ckin filtered pads and
>this tibetian chant everywhere..oh..wait a minute...why not put a DOLPHIN
>noise in the track, that is trippy man ill just keep pressing this one key
>oh...yeah...groovey..man"
>


i do hope you're kidding here.

"trippy" is not in opposition to melody.  "trippy" isn't necessarily gratuitous 
noise thrown in.

no matter what, there will always be some producer whose line of thinking is, 
"we must be X, so we need to do this", instead of producing something 
creatively without worrying about what genre it will fall into before it is 
even created.

For me, at least, "trippy" is when the music is really layered and complex and 
the activity in the mix will change at unexpected times.  Music where you 
really don't know what will come next.  a health element of surprise and the 
less obvious the better.

Maybe the rhythms will shift suddenly, or the ambience will starting morphing 
into something without regard for what the kick drum happens to be doing. Or 
where the "minimal" repetitions start affecting your perception of what is 
happening.

some of Jeff Mills' earlier tracks really distort my perception of time (no 
drugs needed). Or the way kenny larkin's stuff will have lots of layering where 
each seems to go its own way, yet the music is cohesive. even terrence dixon's 
CD has some very fun, almost oblique moments.

Atom Heart is the perfect example of "trippy" and cohesive without being 
gratuitous, but I guess he isn't "Detroit" enough...



>History has teached us that trippyness is the end of everything...look at
>the hippies, lazy f*cks who haven't achieved anything, except putting
>civlized society back ten years. If trippynis becomes involved in art it
>becomes crap.


dearie!  i guess where's not in kansas anymore!!

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