Oliver Ho has some really, really interesting ideas on this too (his is a fairly post-structuralist view of history, period) and again it hinges on definition, he points to ancient tribal drummers in Africa and Asia and draws a parallel to techno there, etc. The thing is that Juan and co never said 'we invented electronic music' and that is where they have often been misconstrued and misrepresented (I think he said as much Urb??), they just created a music out of other musics and gave it a name and contextualised it. Also with Mills you always get a sense he is really ambivalent about locating techno geographically at all, like he wants to transcend 'Detroit'. These things make it interesting.
> well, i personally think he has a point with the >Chicago stuff as well. >I always find it nice to hear an outsider's (meaning >some one from outside of detroit) point of view on >things. I've observed that there are a lot of diff't >views on the history/evolution of _detroit_ techno and >Christian's is just one of them. > He's a successful producer (though I _personally_ >don't care for much of his productions) & business man >who has traveled the world and met and worked with a >lot of producers/DJs. He is _very_ educated- he has a >masters in finance or economics i believe- so I'm sure >what he was saying wasn't meant in any way to be an >attack or any sort, but rather a simple observance >based on things he's observed/experienced. > > When i've traveled and said im from Detroit i've had >my even shares of ethusiasm as well as groans. Its >become the perception by some that Detroit thinks we >are the source for all electronic music existance and >those in Detroit sometimes take our privillege too >far.It's just people's view and something they are >intitled to (if backed up by experience and smarts). > >d > > > >--- lo sens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Wonder what people make of this, Christian Smith in >> our local street mag: >> >> ìPeople always say that Detroit was the beginning of >> everything. I think that the early so-called Detroit >> techno is more house than techno. And when you're >> talking house it's clear where that got started. Not >> Detroit, but Chicago. I have many friends in Detroit >> and regularly DJ at the Motor Lounge. Don't get me >> wrong, I respect a lot of producers from Detroit. I >> just think that Detroit has gotten too much >> attention >> and Chicago has almost completely been forgotten. >> What >> about Adonis, Farley Jackmaster Funk and Marshall >> Jefferson? You never hear their names as godfathers >> of >> house.î >> >> He has a point about the Chicago people not being >> given their dues, but early Detroit techno more >> house >> than techno? Compared to the mono Swedish stuff that >> followed maybeÖ >> >> Cheers >> >> sens >> >> >> ===== >> "Stop, Dave. I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my >> mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind >> is going. There is no question about it. I can feel >> it." : HAL 9000 >> >> >_____________________________________________________________________________ >> http://au.classifieds.yahoo.com/au/car/ - Yahoo! >> Cars >> - Buy, sell or finance a car.. >> >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! >http://photos.yahoo.com/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
