Can't forget that Derrick May credits "Can You Feel It" as one of the most important songs in his development, and Derrick Carter credits "Strings of Life" just the same. The supposed fragmentation between the scenes was at more of a ground level, whereas I think the artists always fed off of each other and were very aware of the distinct innovations in each scene. I can kinda see where Christian Smith is coming from, but I think it lacks a timeline. I mean, techno started out like electro, and house started out like "deep house" in the original sense. As they both progressed you see electro getting a houseyer beat and becoming techno (particularly with May), and you see house in general has gotten farther away from its organic roots. But the bottom line is the scenes grew up together, and you can see how they fed off of each other.
Tristan --- laura gavoor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Don't forget that the Detroit sound was originally > dubbed "Acid House" and > speaks to the sound originating from Chicago which > very shortly afterwards > and simultaneously spawned a bevy of Detroit > producers and tracks. Chicago, > no doubt, coined a sound that both cities were > inflamed with, Detroit just > made it a bit freakier at that time and then > BOOM...came Inner City's first > album which popularized that sound on both sides of > the Atlantic. > > That, perhaps, is the main reason Detroit gets the > lion's share of > attention, but don't forget and certainly no one > from Detroit could argue > with the phrase that was journalized about Chi-town: > "...Chicago is the > center of the dance music universe" > > The Chicago boyz/girls have always had problems with > one or another > playa-hatin each other. The last super strong > enclave that boosted that > city's name was Cajual Records with artists like Ron > Trent, Chez Damier, > Dajae, Boo, Glenn Underground, Paul Johnson and many > others producing and > putting out rekkids. Chicago was THE place at that > time at the same time > Detroit was in its 'Heyday". Big problem was that > Caj owes all its/his > artists, including Dajae BIG-TIME money and > royalties. Dajae never got a > dime from him...what's up wif dat???????? Guidance > is still my big hope for > that city and dem boyz are doing well. > > Yet it's kinda hard for that city to keep it > together when things like that > happen everyday. They rather lost their sense of > unity and that means > something in this business. Detroit does have it's > dysfunctional aspects > and play-haters, but we always seem to come together > under the groove and > are genuinely happy when one of our own makes us > proud. > > Moreover, the business people behind the scenes > there have never been able > to help keep it strong, don't know why that is, but > it is. When I ran > Transmat Records, half of my time was working on > marketing and > communications with my fellow labels here in > Detroit. We WORKED together. > Yeah, we would piss and moan, but we always came > together and supported each > other and I fear that the Chicago folks have to > overcome whatever obstacle > is preventing them from having their own Electronic > Music Festival.... > > My thoughts on the subject. > > > >From: "darw_n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "lo sens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: Re: [313] Detroit techno isn't techno? > >Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2000 11:55:28 -0800 > > > >I think that's why Detroit techno is called > "Detroit techno", it resides in > >its own little world... > > > >I agree with Christian, early Detroit stuff reminds > me a jazzy house more > >than "techno". But I guess the definition of > techno has changed... > > > >hmmmmm... > > > >darw_n > > > >"create, demonstrate, toneshift..." > > > >search for "djdarwin" on napster > >www.sphereproductions.com > >www.mannequinodd.com > >www.mp3.com/darw_n > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "lo sens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <313@hyperreal.org> > >Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 8:44 AM > >Subject: [313] Detroit techno isn't techno? > > > > > > > Wonder what people make of this, Christian Smith > in > > > our local street mag: > > > > > > "People always say that Detroit was the > beginning of > > > everything. I think that the early so-called > Detroit > > > techno is more house than techno. And when > you're > > > talking house it's clear where that got started. > Not > > > Detroit, but Chicago. I have many friends in > Detroit > > > and regularly DJ at the Motor Lounge. Don't get > me > > > wrong, I respect a lot of producers from > Detroit. I > > > just think that Detroit has gotten too much > attention > > > and Chicago has almost completely been > forgotten. What > > > about Adonis, Farley Jackmaster Funk and > Marshall > > > Jefferson? You never hear their names as > godfathers of > > > house." > > > > > > He has a point about the Chicago people not > being > > > given their dues, but early Detroit techno more > house > > > than techno? Compared to the mono Swedish stuff > that > > > followed maybe. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > sens > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > "Stop, Dave. I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, > my mind is going. I can > >feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is > no question about it. I > >can feel it." : HAL 9000 > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________ > >_ > > > http://au.classifieds.yahoo.com/au/car/ - Yahoo! > Cars > > > - Buy, sell or finance a car.. > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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