> >> > >> if he wasn't so far up his own arse as to believe his > >> music isn't techno anymore then maybe we'd all get > >> this chance. > >> > >> wasn't he the one who said > >> "techno is whatever you want it to be......" > > > > I've neglected to respond to the above: > > What part of his music do you consider not techno anymore? Is it what > you think he will play at these house clubs or do you think his current > material isn't techno?
i'll always consider his musc techno. him more than anyone has helped shape the way i look at music and what i now do for a living. it's jeff who says on the axis forum that his music isn't suitable for techno clubs anymore. that's what pissed me off. who is he to decide whether people who've followed his music all through his career are no longer the people who should be out partying to his dj sets. techno for me is anything electronic be it house, electro, gabber, acid anything. and this is why you'll hear these styles more at a techno club than say at tribal sessions where the music policy seems to be just dull 15minute progressive house tunes and the oh so cool tech-house bollocks (surely just techno for house dj's who can't bring themselves to admit that after so many years dissing the music they're now actually playing it) if jeff wants to play these clubs and get a reaction then fair enough. but why turn his back on those who've helped and supported him for so long. we must get asked 5 or 10 times a week in the shop if we know when jeff mills is playing in england again. in future i'll just say he isn't but why not go check out ben sims, carola, hawtin, bone etc, people with a real hunger for what they do and a genuine love for the people who pay to hear them play. like mills used to have. paul > > I really believe his quote is a genuine one and he's not full of shite. > LOL I think we're the ones who have the problem because we have put > "techno" in a box or given techno a "stereotype" whereas Mills hasn't, > hence the quote. Techno IS whatever we want it to be. Its Beligum > Rave, Gabber, its breaks, its tech-step, its tech-house, its TRANCE =), > its IDM, its glitch, its click-house, ambient...on and on. > > Techno is Techno. Even Detroit Techno is its own brand of techno. > > Ok, gotta go...the neighbors got the R&B blastin' now and I have try > and to get back to work. =) > > Peace, > > glyph > > >> > >> > >> so why is he now restricting himself to house clubs? > >> > > > > To you, they're house clubs....to him they're places to wreak havoc in. =) > > I think we just need to remain calm and see what happens. > > > > Peace, > > > > Glyph > > > >> > >> > >> paul > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <313@hyperreal.org> > >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:55 PM > >> Subject: Re: [313] jeff mills stars again > >> > >> > >> off his rocker > >> > >>> but then as he explained himself, I gradually understood. > >>> > >>> Frankly, I believe its up to his audience to appreciate the switcher-roo > >>> he is contemplating and perhaps progress along with him. Those I think > >>> are the true believers of this talent. Its unfair to carelessly lump > >>> Jeff in the 'overrated, under skilled + massively over paid superstar dj > >>> category, if not "tech". Looking at his career, he has worked his butt > >>> off (ever noticed how skinny the man is?) to arrive at his current > >>> prestige. His schedule is non-f***ing stop. In observing him at Musik, > >>> I've come to the conclusion that this man is just amazing. A bloody > >>> genius who has a genuine passion for the music and its progression. > >>> > >>> So basically my friend, with all due respect...I don't know what to tell > >>> ya. Heheh, it is what it is, eh?. We can only progress with him in the > >>> belief that he can lead this music into a new direction or get out there > >>> and make it ourselves. Me, I'm sticking around. > >>> > >>> My 2 ¢, > >>> > >>> --Glyph > >>> > >>> innercity records wrote: > >>> > >>>> we just heard that jeff's quitting (quit?) techno and > >>>> in future will only play house clubs with dates > >>>> this year at fabric and the god awful tribal sessions > >>>> in manchester. > >>>> > >>>> he's totally blown out the uk's most important clubs > >>>> orbit, lost, slam and atomic jam after constant assurances > >>>> that he'd be touring uk this year. > >>>> > >>>> if he feels the need to take his sound to another new > >>>> audience then fair play but to turn his back on what > >>>> he's best known for really beggars belief. > >>>> > >>>> i for one won't be putting on me best shiny shoes and > >>>> sparkly shirt and paying £20 to see him while in the > >>>> company of a bunch of clueless fashion victims who > >>>> are probably in the club only to prance around to > >>>> some overrated, under skilled + massively overpaid > >>>> superstar "tech" dj. > >>>> > >>>> after 3 years of not playing the uk due to his bollocks > >>>> immigraion excuse this is how he repays his long time > >>>> fans and followers who've spent countless money on > >>>> his records and hours queing in the rain to go hear > >>>> him spin. > >>>> > >>>> i don't think i'd actually be as angry over any other dj > >>>> doing this which just shows the kind of admiration this > >>>> guy has over here and i'm sure it'll be the same for > >>>> many others. > >>>> > >>>> simple reply of course is for all us to turn our back > >>>> to him and stop buying his music and going to his > >>>> club dates. it works both ways. > >>>> > >>>> pure arrogance (again) > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> innercity. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> . > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]