It's always bemusing to realize how NARROW people are! First they want it ALL harder harder, faster faster, no chords, no melodies, no vocals - now it's gotta be a particular type of venue, perhaps with a particular type of regular clientelle ... What next? Floor plan measurements? Standardized drinks? You've already got the same beat all night (for the most part) you twits ...
Do yourself a favour ... rewind your day, retrace your steps all the way to your bed, then say to yourself: 'Jan 28 2002' ... then start again. >-----Original Message----- >From: innercity records [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 11:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] jeff mills stars again > > >> >> >> >> if he wasn't so far up his own arse as to believe his >> >> music isn't techno anymore then maybe we'd all get >> >> this chance. >> >> >> >> wasn't he the one who said >> >> "techno is whatever you want it to be......" >> > >> >> I've neglected to respond to the above: >> >> What part of his music do you consider not techno anymore? Is it what >> you think he will play at these house clubs or do you think his current >> material isn't techno? > > > >i'll always consider his musc techno. him more than anyone has helped >shape the way i look at music and what i now do for a living. >it's jeff who says on the axis forum that his music isn't suitable for >techno clubs anymore. that's what pissed me off. who is he to decide >whether people who've followed his music all through his career are >no longer the people who should be out partying to his dj sets. > >techno for me is anything electronic be it house, electro, gabber, acid >anything. and this is why you'll hear these styles more at a techno club >than say at tribal sessions where the music policy seems to be just >dull 15minute progressive house tunes and the oh so cool tech-house >bollocks (surely just techno for house dj's who can't bring themselves >to admit that after so many years dissing the music they're now actually >playing it) > >if jeff wants to play these clubs and get a reaction then fair enough. but >why turn his back on those who've helped and supported him for so long. >we must get asked 5 or 10 times a week in the shop if we know when jeff >mills is playing in england again. in future i'll just say he isn't but why >not >go check out ben sims, carola, hawtin, bone etc, people with a real hunger >for what they do and a genuine love for the people who pay to hear them >play. like mills used to have. > > >paul > > > > >> >> I really believe his quote is a genuine one and he's not full of shite. >> LOL I think we're the ones who have the problem because we have put >> "techno" in a box or given techno a "stereotype" whereas Mills hasn't, >> hence the quote. Techno IS whatever we want it to be. Its Beligum >> Rave, Gabber, its breaks, its tech-step, its tech-house, its TRANCE =), >> its IDM, its glitch, its click-house, ambient...on and on. >> >> Techno is Techno. Even Detroit Techno is its own brand of techno. >> >> Ok, gotta go...the neighbors got the R&B blastin' now and I have try >> and to get back to work. =) >> >> Peace, >> >> glyph >> >> >> >> >> >> >> so why is he now restricting himself to house clubs? >> >> >> > >> > To you, they're house clubs....to him they're places to wreak havoc in. >=) >> > I think we just need to remain calm and see what happens. >> > >> > Peace, >> > >> > Glyph >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> paul >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: glyph1001 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: <313@hyperreal.org> >> >> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 8:55 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [313] jeff mills stars again >> >> >> >> >> >> off his rocker >> >> >> >>> but then as he explained himself, I gradually understood. >> >>> >> >>> Frankly, I believe its up to his audience to appreciate the >switcher-roo >> >>> he is contemplating and perhaps progress along with him. Those I >think >> >>> are the true believers of this talent. Its unfair to carelessly lump >> >>> Jeff in the 'overrated, under skilled + massively over paid superstar >dj >> >>> category, if not "tech". Looking at his career, he has >worked his butt >> >>> off (ever noticed how skinny the man is?) to arrive at his current >> >>> prestige. His schedule is non-f***ing stop. In observing him at >Musik, >> >>> I've come to the conclusion that this man is just amazing. A bloody >> >>> genius who has a genuine passion for the music and its progression. >> >>> >> >>> So basically my friend, with all due respect...I don't know what to >tell >> >>> ya. Heheh, it is what it is, eh?. We can only progress with him in >the >> >>> belief that he can lead this music into a new direction or get out >there >> >>> and make it ourselves. Me, I'm sticking around. >> >>> >> >>> My 2 ¢, >> >>> >> >>> --Glyph >> >>> >> >>> innercity records wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> we just heard that jeff's quitting (quit?) techno and >> >>>> in future will only play house clubs with dates >> >>>> this year at fabric and the god awful tribal sessions >> >>>> in manchester. >> >>>> >> >>>> he's totally blown out the uk's most important clubs >> >>>> orbit, lost, slam and atomic jam after constant assurances >> >>>> that he'd be touring uk this year. >> >>>> >> >>>> if he feels the need to take his sound to another new >> >>>> audience then fair play but to turn his back on what >> >>>> he's best known for really beggars belief. >> >>>> >> >>>> i for one won't be putting on me best shiny shoes and >> >>>> sparkly shirt and paying £20 to see him while in the >> >>>> company of a bunch of clueless fashion victims who >> >>>> are probably in the club only to prance around to >> >>>> some overrated, under skilled + massively overpaid >> >>>> superstar "tech" dj. >> >>>> >> >>>> after 3 years of not playing the uk due to his bollocks >> >>>> immigraion excuse this is how he repays his long time >> >>>> fans and followers who've spent countless money on >> >>>> his records and hours queing in the rain to go hear >> >>>> him spin. >> >>>> >> >>>> i don't think i'd actually be as angry over any other dj >> >>>> doing this which just shows the kind of admiration this >> >>>> guy has over here and i'm sure it'll be the same for >> >>>> many others. >> >>>> >> >>>> simple reply of course is for all us to turn our back >> >>>> to him and stop buying his music and going to his >> >>>> club dates. it works both ways. >> >>>> >> >>>> pure arrogance (again) >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> innercity. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> . >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
