Is it not interesting that two of the Drexciyan personas are 'from' countries that have been defeated by the American or American allies, that is Dopplereffekt and Japanese Telecom.

Sure, the Nazi nation was an evil dictatorship. Something else that comes to mind is that the artwork on Gesamtkunstwerk has symbols of the USSR and China depicted. Two more countries which had been 'against' the USA for many years.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 'Gesamtkunstwerk'' translate to 'Synthesis of the arts' and in this case, I'd say the definition of 'synthesis' would potentially be it's philosophical one as opposed to it's general or chemical definition.

Also, think about how the US has treated the American-Indian. Then again, I could be wrong, the Drexciyans after all might just be white boy fruit farmers making jelly/jam in the mid-west.

Some interesting points of discussion to think about.

However, at the end of the day, who says Drexciya = Dopplereffekt = Japanese Telecom.



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At 10:27 04/02/2002 +0100, Gwendal Cobert wrote:
Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the
imagery, but it is just "too much" not to be second-degree... as far as I
know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans and
imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such ideas
fit in the Gigolos stable ?
Gwendal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
>
>
> Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi
> symbols on
> them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which
> appaered on the
> Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him
> why he named
> one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to
> sterilize the
> population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly
> disabled had to be
> sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that
> time on  i always
> had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller /
> > Müller is quite
> > a common name in Germany, isn't it ?
> > Gwendal
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM
> > > To: '313@hyperreal.org'
> > > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name?
> > >
> > >
> > > I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real
> > > name, well i
> > > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members
> > > i will burn my
> > > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head
> > > Gestapo, the
> > > secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is
> > > reposible for one of
> > > the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the
> > > persons (together
> > > with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key
> > > components in the
> > > deportation and then extermination of the Jews.
> > >
> > > Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he
> > > disappeared and was
> > > never brought to justice!
> > >
> > > To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on the
> > > Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why
> > > to use Mueller
> > > as an alias...
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in
> > > > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut
> > > > Magazine, UK).
> > > > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a
> > > > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of
> > > > this? The name was
> > > > Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the
> > > > writer's part? Now
> > > > that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me,
> > > > why the first
> > > > attempt to post this was barred from the list .... This time
> > > > I don't mention
> > > > the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already
> > > > out there too.
> > > > Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated.

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