At risk of 'posting too much' ... Can I perhaps draw the thread a little back to specifics? The name was Heinrich Meuller. Now, many appear to think this is an alias ... anyone agree? Also, I think we can start to discount the Nazi allusions ... the 'Heinrich' part earlier triggered a mistaken suggestion that we were referring to a notorious Nazi official, Himmler.
>-----Original Message----- >From: Benn Glazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:43 AM >To: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: RE: [313] What's in a name? > > >Is it not interesting that two of the Drexciyan personas are 'from' >countries that have been defeated by the American or American allies, >that >is Dopplereffekt and Japanese Telecom. > >Sure, the Nazi nation was an evil dictatorship. Something else that >comes >to mind is that the artwork on Gesamtkunstwerk has symbols of the USSR >and >China depicted. Two more countries which had been 'against' the USA for > >many years. > >Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 'Gesamtkunstwerk'' >translate to 'Synthesis of the arts' and in this case, I'd say the >definition of 'synthesis' would potentially be it's philosophical one as > >opposed to it's general or chemical definition. > >Also, think about how the US has treated the American-Indian. Then >again, >I could be wrong, the Drexciyans after all might just be white boy fruit > >farmers making jelly/jam in the mid-west. > >Some interesting points of discussion to think about. > >However, at the end of the day, who says Drexciya = Dopplereffekt = >Japanese Telecom. > > > >royal:one: - benn glazier >http://www.royaltech.net - http://dj.royaltech.net >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - 61 (0) 413 316 618 >r720 royal exchange nsw 1225 australia > > > > >At 10:27 04/02/2002 +0100, Gwendal Cobert wrote: >>Well, I have their Gesamtkunstwerk CD, and I was a bit disturbed by the >>imagery, but it is just "too much" not to be second-degree... as far as >I >>know, the most extreme far-right doesn't go that far in their slogans >and >>imagery, right ? plus, I don't really see how could a guy with such >ideas >>fit in the Gigolos stable ? >>Gwendal >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:13 AM >> > To: 313@hyperreal.org >> > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? >> > >> > >> > Yeah that could be but the early Dataphysix records had nazi >> > symbols on >> > them. Also one of his tracks is called 'superior race' which >> > appaered on the >> > Facist State EP. When he played in Holland someone asked him >> > why he named >> > one of his tracks 'sterilization' and had the line 'we had to >> > sterilize the >> > population' in it. He said that everybody who is mentaly >> > disabled had to be >> > sterilized so they can not reprodue themself... From that >> > time on i always >> > had mixed feelings on a Dopplereffekt track. >> > >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > > on the other hand... I may be wrong, but Mueller / Muller / >> > > Müller is quite >> > > a common name in Germany, isn't it ? >> > > Gwendal >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:47 AM >> > > > To: '313@hyperreal.org' >> > > > Subject: RE: [313] FW: What's in a name? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > I can tell you for sure that Heinrich Mueller is NOT his real >> > > > name, well i >> > > > hope it isn't becauseif Mueller is really one of the members >> > > > i will burn my >> > > > copies immediatly. Why, well Heinrich Mueller was the head >> > > > Gestapo, the >> > > > secret police of the Nazi's, during World War II. He is >> > > > reposible for one of >> > > > the worst crimes ever comitted by humans. He is one of the >> > > > persons (together >> > > > with the notorious Adolf Eichmann) who planned the key >> > > > components in the >> > > > deportation and then extermination of the Jews. >> > > > >> > > > Heinrich Mueller escaped the Heidelberg proceses, he >> > > > disappeared and was >> > > > never brought to justice! >> > > > >> > > > To be honest, i never understood why they used name Mueller on >the >> > > > Dopplereffekt records. I can't think of a single reason why >> > > > to use Mueller >> > > > as an alias... >> > > > >> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > >> > > > > One member of Drexciya has (apparently) been named (in >> > > > > Jan-Feb Jockey Slut >> > > > > Magazine, UK). >> > > > > Now, I may have missed any ensuing controversy - I have a >> > > > > feeling I'll be told if so - but what do people think of >> > > > > this? The name was >> > > > > Heinrich Mueller. Or was it all a big phat joke on the >> > > > > writer's part? Now >> > > > > that this name has entered the public domain, it baffles me, >> > > > > why the first >> > > > > attempt to post this was barred from the list .... This time >> > > > > I don't mention >> > > > > the journalist who 'did' it ... but of course, that's already >> > > > > out there too. >> > > > > Any ansewers to either question wd be appreciated. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
