Your talking about Pop super stardom. A mere mention on MTV, mainstream magazines you see at your local 7-11 convenient store like Rolling Stone is pretty significant. This means people like Derrick May have established a legacy, a name for themselves in the music industry's eye. They've already been recognized by the city of Detroit and made front page headlines with the festival. Not to mention dance music is pretty mainsteme in America, take a look at the dance section at your local Virgin megastore or HMV. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Oh - ok, you're talking about being *mentioned* in some mainstream press > (if being on a magazine rack equates mainstream then so is High Times and > Juxtapose) - > this is different that being recognized. > > MTV - when Carl Craig walks onto TRL and the crowd outside hold up signs > saying "I (heart) C2!!!" then I will agree with you. > There might be highlights but you never see a video, you never hear an > interview, evidently they aren't "buzzworthy", and I'm waiting for the day > that one of their talking heads of the month comes on and declares "We're > here live at the Movement '05 music festival in downtown Detroit city for > the next three days!" instead of repeating "MTV's Spring Break in Cancun > '98" for the third time that week. > > as for the "popular music" thing with Amazon/CD Now - that's just to say he > isn't making Classical music. They only have two general classifications at > the highest level - Classical music and Popular music. You'll also find > stuff like Jean Ritchie, Oumou Sangare, and Opiate in the "Popular" music > even though you'd be hard pressed to find them being recognized within the > mainstream. > > All said and done - you might see their names pop up but until you *hear* > their music on the radio or *see* a video on MTV - they aren't being > recognized because it is the music, their art, that they produce that is > important. Until the day they stop paying lip service saying "oh yeah - > he's techno pioneer and we respect that" but never play his music (or any > other under represented techno/house/etc. innovator) then he/she isn't > being recognized. > > MEK > > > > > > > > > > > spw > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org > > > gy.net> cc: > > > Subject: RE: (313) Soul Music > (was some nonsense > spw > 06/23/03 03:09 PM was going on about) > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think he has, artist like Jay-Z and Herbbie Hancock are well aware of who > Derrick May is, I > think Carl Craig is more popular though. > Someone told they saw highlights of the DEMF on MTV which is about as > mainstream as it gets. > Carl Craig has been featured in mainstream American magazines like Rolling > Stone on numerous > occasions, Wasnt it you that mentioned them making the cover of Urb? Urb is > on a lot of Magazine > racks. > Speaking of Rolling Stone I rember reading an article (or was it Spin?) > about Kraftwerk when they > went on tour back in the late 90's it had all the bands Kraftwerk had > influenced and Carl Craig > was up there with the likes of Devo. > These guys are not hitting the Billboard Top 40 but that doesn't mean they > are not getting > recognition for their accomplishments by the music industry. > > If you still have any doubts look what's classifdied under "Popular Music" > on the CDNOW: > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-7582885-0525427 > > Innovator -- Derrick May; Audio CD > > Editorial Reviews > Amazon.com > Thanks to legendary singles like "Strings of Life" and "Nude Photo," > Derrick May is universally > regarded as the definitive techno producer; by hijacking the rhythmic > sensibilities of house and > adding the intelligence of European electronica and the spirit of Motown, > he single-handedly > defined and articulated the sound of Detroit. But despite (or perhaps > because of) his status as a > "legend," nary a bleep had emerged from his studio since 1990 before the > release of Innovator, a > collection of his past work. This double CD contains the aforementioned > "Strings" and "Nude Photo" > singles as well as other classics like "It Is What It Is," "Salsa Life," > and "The Beginning," all > of which have been available only in vinyl form on May's own Transmat > label. Until he reemerges > from a self-imposed musical hiatus, your course in the spirit of Detroit > begins and ends here. > --Matthew Corwine > > Customers who bought this title also bought: > > * Faces & Phases ~ Kevin Saunderson > * Wax Trax! Mastermix, Vol. 1 ~ Juan Atkins > * X-Mix: Transmission from Deep Space Radio ~ Kevin Saunderson > * Classics [IMPORT] ~ Model 500 > * Clear ~ Cybotron > * A Hundred Days Off ~ Underworld > * Selected Ambient Works, Vol. 2 ~ Aphex Twin > * The Beatles (The White Album) ~ Beatles > Explore Similar Items: 9 in Music > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Customers who shopped for this item also shopped for these items: > > * Mysterious Traveller ~ System 7, Derrick May > * Deep Space ~ Model 500 > * Vol. 1 - Club Classics 10th Anniversary ~ Soul II Soul > * Dig Your Own Hole ~ The Chemical Brothers > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Uh, he's established a name for himself in the mainstream music > community? > > Really? That's interesting because last time I checked very few people > even > > know what the Movement festival or even the DEMF is, let alone songs like > > "Nude Photo", "Beyond the Dance", "Stings of Life", or "The Dance". Pop > his > > name into MTV's search and in the news archives you get one item that > comes > > up - and that item is - BLANK. There isn't anything there on him. There > is > > one review of Innovator and a bio. The other CD they list is a > compilation > > that includes other artists like - Propellerheads, The Crystal Method, > > Atomic Babies, Headrillaz, Electric Skychurch, BT, Rabbit in the Moon, > > Fatboy Slim, etc. Plus Derrick isn't even mentioned in the review! > > All this despite pulling off one of the nation's largest electronic > > festivals without any financial backing and managing to bring the spirit, > > dare I say soul, back to the festival. > > The reason I use MTV as a thermometer is because *that is the mainstream > > music community*. > > If you think Derrick May is being recognized by the mainstream music > > community then you are seriously fooling yourself. Now back to our > > regularly featured program featuring the White Stripes and Justin > > Timberlake. > > > > MEK > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > > >
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