Oh - ok, you're talking about being *mentioned* in some mainstream press
(if being on a magazine rack equates mainstream then so is High Times and
Juxtapose) -
this is different that being recognized.

 MTV - when Carl Craig walks onto TRL and the crowd outside hold up signs
saying "I (heart) C2!!!" then I will agree with you.
There might be highlights but you never see a video, you never hear an
interview, evidently they aren't "buzzworthy", and I'm waiting for the day
that one of their talking heads of the month comes on and declares "We're
here live at the Movement '05 music festival in downtown Detroit city for
the next three days!" instead of repeating "MTV's Spring Break in Cancun
'98" for the third time that week.

as for the "popular music" thing with Amazon/CD Now - that's just to say he
isn't making Classical music. They only have two general classifications at
the highest level - Classical music and Popular music. You'll also find
stuff like Jean Ritchie, Oumou Sangare, and Opiate in the "Popular" music
even though you'd be hard pressed to find them being recognized within the
mainstream.

All said and done - you might see their names pop up but until you *hear*
their music on the radio or *see* a video on MTV - they aren't being
recognized because it is the music, their art, that they produce that is
important. Until the  day they stop paying lip service saying "oh yeah -
he's techno pioneer and we respect that" but never play his music (or any
other under represented techno/house/etc. innovator) then he/she isn't
being recognized.

MEK







                                                                                
                     
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I think he has, artist like Jay-Z and Herbbie Hancock are well aware of who
Derrick May is, I
think Carl Craig is more popular though.
Someone told they saw highlights of the DEMF on MTV which is about as
mainstream as it gets.
Carl Craig has been featured in mainstream American magazines like Rolling
Stone on numerous
occasions, Wasnt it you that mentioned them making the cover of Urb? Urb is
on a lot of Magazine
racks.
Speaking of Rolling Stone I rember reading an article (or was it Spin?)
about Kraftwerk when they
went on tour back in the late 90's it had all the bands Kraftwerk had
influenced and Carl Craig
was up there with the likes of Devo.
These guys are not hitting the Billboard Top 40 but that doesn't mean they
are not getting
recognition for their accomplishments by the music industry.

If you still have any doubts look what's classifdied under "Popular Music"
on the CDNOW:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-7582885-0525427

Innovator -- Derrick May; Audio CD

Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com
Thanks to legendary singles like "Strings of Life" and "Nude Photo,"
Derrick May is universally
regarded as the definitive techno producer; by hijacking the rhythmic
sensibilities of house and
adding the intelligence of European electronica and the spirit of Motown,
he single-handedly
defined and articulated the sound of Detroit. But despite (or perhaps
because of) his status as a
"legend," nary a bleep had emerged from his studio since 1990 before the
release of Innovator, a
collection of his past work. This double CD contains the aforementioned
"Strings" and "Nude Photo"
singles as well as other classics like "It Is What It Is," "Salsa Life,"
and "The Beginning," all
of which have been available only in vinyl form on May's own Transmat
label. Until he reemerges
from a self-imposed musical hiatus, your course in the spirit of Detroit
begins and ends here.
--Matthew Corwine

Customers who bought this title also bought:

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*            Classics [IMPORT] ~ Model 500
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*            The Beatles (The White Album) ~ Beatles
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--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Uh, he's established a name for himself in the mainstream music
community?
> Really? That's interesting because last time I checked very few people
even
> know what the Movement festival or even the DEMF is, let alone songs like
> "Nude Photo", "Beyond the Dance", "Stings of Life", or "The Dance". Pop
his
> name into MTV's search and in the news archives you get one item that
comes
> up - and that item is - BLANK. There isn't anything there on him. There
is
> one review of Innovator and a bio. The other CD they list is a
compilation
> that includes other artists like - Propellerheads, The Crystal Method,
> Atomic Babies, Headrillaz, Electric Skychurch, BT, Rabbit in the Moon,
> Fatboy Slim, etc. Plus Derrick isn't even mentioned in the review!
> All this despite pulling off one of the nation's largest electronic
> festivals without any financial backing and managing to bring the spirit,
> dare I say soul, back to the festival.
> The reason I use MTV as a thermometer is because *that is the mainstream
> music community*.
> If you think Derrick May is being recognized by the mainstream music
> community then you are seriously fooling yourself. Now back to our
> regularly featured program featuring the White Stripes and Justin
> Timberlake.
>
> MEK
>
>




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