I suppose someone should tell Mike Pickering (latterly of M People) - he produced it. In fact, f*ck that, he owes the world of music more than enough! Ha ha.
----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Klaas-Jan Jongsma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "313 list" <313@hyperreal.org>; "Kent williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: Re: (313) "Jaguar" Strings on 80s House record? > > > > > You're kidding right? A coincidence? Everything in that string bit is in > Jaguar -even how the notes waver before the descending notes come in. > This more than sounds " a lot like" it - the strings in Jaguar clearly is a > sample of that track with maybe a tempo change (and maybe extra > accompaniment over and under to fatten up the sound). Or, it was > reperformed by Rolando using the same keyboard practically note for note - > would be too many coincidences to be a coincidence if you know what I mean. > > TCoy probably wouldn't do anything about it because of the use of Eric B. & > Rakim, in the Carino track, would cost a lot more to licence and TCoy would > most likely get sued in turn if Eric B & Rakim knew about it. So, I'm sure > the producer of Carino, if they are alive still, are keeping real quiet and > not bothering with taking any action against Rolando if UR didn't clear it. > This is all a moot point if Rolando/UR cleared it all with the owners of > Carino. Whether that be the performance and the publishing (if it was a > sample) or just the publishing (if Rolando re-performed the section used). > > Either way, both tunes are cool and I do hope that UR has got their bases > covered on this. > > MEK > > > > > Klaas-Jan Jongsma > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Kent williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > .nl> cc: 313 list <313@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: (313) "Jaguar" Strings on 80s House record? > 08/04/03 01:13 PM > > > > > > > > On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 20:08 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams wrote: > > > It also is note for note the same as the beginning couple of bars of > > the > > strings in Jaguar ... just interesting to compare. > > Oh sure but i think that it so more a coincident, i once got accused by > someone for copying a melody from a Joy Division record once. I never > realized it until i heard them played bak to back and i had to agree > that my track sounded a lot like that Joy Division track :) > > > My friend who found that thought that Rolando was copying; I argued > > that > > the string line on both are fairly generic and depend on the context > > for > > any distinctiveness. > > > > On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: > >> Well they use the same (Oberheim?) synth for sure, but that is where > >> the comparison ends i think? > >> > >> On maandag, aug 4, 2003, at 19:48 Europe/Amsterdam, Kent williams > >> wrote: > >> > >>> My friend Rich found this: > >>> > >>> http://www.psychiatry.uiowa.edu/~kent/Carino-TCOY.mp3 > >>> > >>> Listen to the string synth at the beginning, contrast and compare > >>> with > >>> synth strings in "Night of the Jaguar" > >>> > >> > > > > > >
