i don't blame him for trying- its just that he so BAD at it. worst pontificator ever
On Thu, 8 Apr 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > If, say, Phillip Glass, Sun Ra, Holger Czukay, or Brian Eno were to say the > same thing as Mills is we'd all be going "hmmm, yes, very interesting > concept" > but we're not because Jeff Mills is *supposed* to make dance music and "it > just ain't right" for him to conceptualize or attempt to put some thought > (even if it's half baked) into his art. That's what it is - his art. And > yes, it's mass produced for consumers but so are Rembrant's, Warhol's, and > Rothko's. > He's crossing pop culture with ideas of high art - he's not the first to do > this so I'm not sure why everyone gets so upset when he presents a concept. > > At least he's not saying "dude I put it on marble green vinyl because it > looks so f*cking rad man!" > > He's also not gluing sandpaper to the vinyl so you can still play it - he's > trying to put some thought and effort into it while still presenting a > usable product- you can't blame a man for trying something. > > MEK > > > > "Robert Taylor" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Blackman, Ryan > (UKEKT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > 4.co.uk> "Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > <313@hyperreal.org> > cc: > 04/08/04 07:12 AM Subject: RE: (313) new Mills > > > > > > > A concept that is somewhat lacking if it takes a load of highfaluting > nonsense to explain it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:07 AM > To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) new Mills > > > That he's composed a piece of music based specifically around an idea, a > concept. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 April 2004 1:06 > To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) new Mills > > > My arse exists on more levels than the purely conceptual, Ryan. > > What do you mean by conceptual? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:05 AM > To: Robert Taylor; Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) new Mills > > > No, it's obviously conceptual. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 April 2004 1:04 > To: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT); Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) new Mills > > > My arse > > -----Original Message----- > From: Blackman, Ryan (UKEKT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:03 AM > To: Robert Taylor; Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) new Mills > > > To you, maybe. To Mills it's obviously conceptual. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 April 2004 1:02 > To: Andrew; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) new Mills > > > But it's just a record > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 10:58 AM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) new Mills > > > Sorry to pile in here...philosophy background coming into play ;-) > > "Mills chose the symbolic colour of white as the vinyl colour in the design > to represent an unknown destination in space and/or time" > > This is actually justified conceptually by thinking about a situation where > you are in space which is completely white - no other information is being > received by you. You therefore have no sense of change in your environment > other than your inner sense of space and/or time, and so in an limited > sense > these things cease to exist. > > Philosophically I call this a 'white room' scenario, actually a very > interesting situation which highlights certain things about how we perceive > and know anything at all. > > So there! > > Peace, > > Andrew > > > > > ############################################################################ > > ######### > Note: > > Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily > represent > those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. > This email > and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use > of the > individual or entity to which they are addressed. 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