all the artists i talk to, who aren't exactly BIG BIG BIG acts, all tell me they make thier money from touring.
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Cyclone Wehner wrote: > No doubt. I guess I was thinking of the big big big acts. :) > > ---------- > >From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "313 Detroit" > <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > >Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 4:45 PM > > > > > <cough> > > Last "big band" I worked with made nothing on the actual concerts, in fact > > they lost $10,000 a gig - the only thing they made money on was the t-shirts > > and programmes. > > > > Cheers > > Martin > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:01 PM > > Subject: Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > > > > > > I think the point is that people will spend money on concerts as opposed to > > records (which in theory they can download for free or minimal cost) and so > > artists will draw their living from live performances. > > It's a very good point and quite accurate I believe. > > > > ---------- > >>From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> > >>Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > >>Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 5:36 PM > >> > > > >> Not sure I see your point... You couldn't download one before, you can't > >> now. > >> Gwendal > >> > >> -----Message d'origine----- > >> De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Envoyé : Monday, October 11, 2004 8:40 PM > >> À : Cobert, Gwendal > >> Cc : 313 Detroit > >> Objet : RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > >> > >> you can't download a concert. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: > >> > >>> Basically, there would be record sales in competition with DVDs, video > >> games, mobile phones, concert tickets... Actually had a talk with a guy > >> (professionnal classical musician) who sees the same happening in his > >> field, he records less and less, but tours more and more... The > >> interesting > >> effect being less power to the big record companies, more power to the > >> tour > >> companies. > >>> Gwendal > >>> > >>> -----Message d'origine----- > >>> De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Envoyé : Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:25 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : > >>> Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > >>> > >>> Yes, that is very true for Australia, but I have no figures. > >>> Alicia Keys' latest record is considered a commercial failure (to BMG's > >> dismay, many of the staff believed in what is an extraordinary record) yet > >> her Australian shows have sold out. > >>> I think people - young people - are putting money in mobile phones and so > >> don't have as much money for records. They download. Also people spend > >> money on live shows and download music. Many a musician says that touring, > >> not record sales, is their main source of income these days. > >>> Australia has always had a strong live circuit though. > >>> > >>> ---------- > >>> >From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> >To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> > >>> >Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > >>> >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 7:03 PM > >>> > > >>> > >>> > On the "music doesn't sell as much as it used to..." tip - I've read > >>> > that while record sales are going down, tickets for concerts are > >>> > going up very fast... Is it the same in the US and Australia as > >>> > well, or just some European cultural exception ? > >>> > Gwendal > >>> > > >>> > -----Message d'origine----- > >>> > De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > Envoyé : Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:19 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : > >>> > Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > >>> > > >>> > Music isn't selling as it used to, period. The market is in > >>> > transition and no one knows where it's heading. I think it's some > >>> > kind of technological revolution that we don't completely understand as > >>> > of > > yet. > >>> > There does seem to be a trend for underground acts to set themselves > >>> > up as bands, get a singer, and make something more organic, perhaps > >>> > less 'faceless'. I don't think it's necessarily cynical as after all > >>> > most grew up with bands like Depeche Mode or whatever (many techno > >>> > types here are old goths, weirdly, who are rediscovering their love > >>> > of bands like The Cure) and that's a genuine avenue of exploration > >>> > for a maturing producer. But at the same time I hear a lot of tracks > >>> > with vocals, not songs, and when the music is like that it's not > >>> > especially memorable, doesn't stand out, doesn't click. I'm not sure > >>> > what I'm trying to say - I'm not a slave to pop structures, but... I > >>> > think Technasia make brilliant techno 'songs' with hooks and the vocals > >> and everything - superb. > >>> > The songs with Charles Siegling and their instrumentals are first-rate. > >>> > I am sure with a different marketing strategy (and some money for > >>> > videos, ha > >>> > ha) they could have become a techno Daft Punk without changing their > >>> > music at > >>> all. > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > >
