<cough>
Last "big band" I worked with made nothing on the actual concerts, in fact
they lost $10,000 a gig - the only thing they made money on was the t-shirts
and programmes.
Cheers
Martin
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From: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
I think the point is that people will spend money on concerts as opposed to
records (which in theory they can download for free or minimal cost) and so
artists will draw their living from live performances.
It's a very good point and quite accurate I believe.
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From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 5:36 PM
Not sure I see your point... You couldn't download one before, you can't
now.
Gwendal
-----Message d'origine-----
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Envoyé : Monday, October 11, 2004 8:40 PM
À : Cobert, Gwendal
Cc : 313 Detroit
Objet : RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
you can't download a concert.
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote:
Basically, there would be record sales in competition with DVDs, video
games, mobile phones, concert tickets... Actually had a talk with a guy
(professionnal classical musician) who sees the same happening in his
field, he records less and less, but tours more and more... The
interesting
effect being less power to the big record companies, more power to the
tour
companies.
Gwendal
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envoyé : Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:25 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet :
Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
Yes, that is very true for Australia, but I have no figures.
Alicia Keys' latest record is considered a commercial failure (to BMG's
dismay, many of the staff believed in what is an extraordinary record) yet
her Australian shows have sold out.
I think people - young people - are putting money in mobile phones and so
don't have as much money for records. They download. Also people spend
money on live shows and download music. Many a musician says that touring,
not record sales, is their main source of income these days.
Australia has always had a strong live circuit though.
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>From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 7:03 PM
>
> On the "music doesn't sell as much as it used to..." tip - I've read
> that while record sales are going down, tickets for concerts are
> going up very fast... Is it the same in the US and Australia as
> well, or just some European cultural exception ?
> Gwendal
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyé : Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:19 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet :
> Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
>
> Music isn't selling as it used to, period. The market is in
> transition and no one knows where it's heading. I think it's some
> kind of technological revolution that we don't completely understand as
> of
yet.
> There does seem to be a trend for underground acts to set themselves
> up as bands, get a singer, and make something more organic, perhaps
> less 'faceless'. I don't think it's necessarily cynical as after all
> most grew up with bands like Depeche Mode or whatever (many techno
> types here are old goths, weirdly, who are rediscovering their love
> of bands like The Cure) and that's a genuine avenue of exploration
> for a maturing producer. But at the same time I hear a lot of tracks
> with vocals, not songs, and when the music is like that it's not
> especially memorable, doesn't stand out, doesn't click. I'm not sure
> what I'm trying to say - I'm not a slave to pop structures, but... I
> think Technasia make brilliant techno 'songs' with hooks and the vocals
and everything - superb.
> The songs with Charles Siegling and their instrumentals are first-rate.
> I am sure with a different marketing strategy (and some money for
> videos, ha
> ha) they could have become a techno Daft Punk without changing their
> music at
all.
>
