just pointing out that when it comes to competition, something like a concert has a distinct advantage ove a cd.
On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: > Not sure I see your point... You couldn't download one before, you can't now. > Gwendal > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Envoyé : Monday, October 11, 2004 8:40 PM > À : Cobert, Gwendal > Cc : 313 Detroit > Objet : RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > > you can't download a concert. > > > > On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote: > > > Basically, there would be record sales in competition with DVDs, video > > games, mobile phones, concert tickets... Actually had a talk with a guy > > (professionnal classical musician) who sees the same happening in his > > field, he records less and less, but tours more and more... The interesting > > effect being less power to the big record companies, more power to the tour > > companies. > > Gwendal > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Envoyé : Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:25 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : > > Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > > > > Yes, that is very true for Australia, but I have no figures. > > Alicia Keys' latest record is considered a commercial failure (to BMG's > > dismay, many of the staff believed in what is an extraordinary record) yet > > her Australian shows have sold out. > > I think people - young people - are putting money in mobile phones and so > > don't have as much money for records. They download. Also people spend > > money on live shows and download music. Many a musician says that touring, > > not record sales, is their main source of income these days. > > Australia has always had a strong live circuit though. > > > > ---------- > > >From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org> > > >Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > > >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 7:03 PM > > > > > > > > On the "music doesn't sell as much as it used to..." tip - I've read > > > that while record sales are going down, tickets for concerts are > > > going up very fast... Is it the same in the US and Australia as > > > well, or just some European cultural exception ? > > > Gwendal > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > > De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Envoyé : Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:19 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet : > > > Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound? > > > > > > Music isn't selling as it used to, period. The market is in > > > transition and no one knows where it's heading. I think it's some > > > kind of technological revolution that we don't completely understand as > > > of yet. > > > There does seem to be a trend for underground acts to set themselves > > > up as bands, get a singer, and make something more organic, perhaps > > > less 'faceless'. I don't think it's necessarily cynical as after all > > > most grew up with bands like Depeche Mode or whatever (many techno > > > types here are old goths, weirdly, who are rediscovering their love > > > of bands like The Cure) and that's a genuine avenue of exploration > > > for a maturing producer. But at the same time I hear a lot of tracks > > > with vocals, not songs, and when the music is like that it's not > > > especially memorable, doesn't stand out, doesn't click. I'm not sure > > > what I'm trying to say - I'm not a slave to pop structures, but... I > > > think Technasia make brilliant techno 'songs' with hooks and the vocals > > > and everything - superb. > > > The songs with Charles Siegling and their instrumentals are first-rate. > > > I am sure with a different marketing strategy (and some money for > > > videos, ha > > > ha) they could have become a techno Daft Punk without changing their > > > music at > > all. > > > > > > > > > > > >