just pointing out that when it comes to competition, something like a
concert has a distinct advantage ove a cd.

On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote:

> Not sure I see your point... You couldn't download one before, you can't now.
> Gwendal
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoyé : Monday, October 11, 2004 8:40 PM
> À : Cobert, Gwendal
> Cc : 313 Detroit
> Objet : RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
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> you can't download a concert.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 11 Oct 2004, Cobert, Gwendal wrote:
>
> > Basically, there would be record sales in competition with DVDs, video 
> > games, mobile phones, concert tickets... Actually had a talk with a guy 
> > (professionnal classical musician) who sees the same happening in his 
> > field, he records less and less, but tours more and more... The interesting 
> > effect being less power to the big record companies, more power to the tour 
> > companies.
> > Gwendal
> >
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Envoyé : Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:25 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet :
> > Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
> >
> > Yes, that is very true for Australia, but I have no figures.
> > Alicia Keys' latest record is considered a commercial failure (to BMG's 
> > dismay, many of the staff believed in what is an extraordinary record) yet 
> > her Australian shows have sold out.
> > I think people - young people - are putting money in mobile phones and so 
> > don't have as much money for records. They download. Also people spend 
> > money on live shows and download music. Many a musician says that touring, 
> > not record sales, is their main source of income these days.
> > Australia has always had a strong live circuit though.
> >
> > ----------
> > >From: "Cobert, Gwendal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: RE: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
> > >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 7:03 PM
> > >
> >
> > > On the "music doesn't sell as much as it used to..." tip - I've read
> > > that while record sales are going down, tickets for concerts are
> > > going up very fast... Is it the same in the US and Australia as
> > > well, or just some European cultural exception ?
> > > Gwendal
> > >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Envoyé : Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:19 PM À : 313 Detroit Objet :
> > > Re: (313) Is this the new Swayzak sound?
> > >
> > > Music isn't selling as it used to, period. The market is in
> > > transition and no one knows where it's heading. I think it's some
> > > kind of technological revolution that we don't completely understand as 
> > > of yet.
> > > There does seem to be a trend for underground acts to set themselves
> > > up as bands, get a singer, and make something more organic, perhaps
> > > less 'faceless'. I don't think it's necessarily cynical as after all
> > > most grew up with bands like Depeche Mode or whatever (many techno
> > > types here are old goths, weirdly, who are rediscovering their love
> > > of bands like The Cure) and that's a genuine avenue of exploration
> > > for a maturing producer. But at the same time I hear a lot of tracks
> > > with vocals, not songs, and when the music is like that it's not
> > > especially memorable, doesn't stand out, doesn't click. I'm not sure
> > > what I'm trying to say - I'm not a slave to pop structures, but... I
> > > think Technasia make brilliant techno 'songs' with hooks and the vocals 
> > > and everything - superb.
> > > The songs with Charles Siegling and their instrumentals are first-rate.
> > > I am sure with a different marketing strategy (and some money for
> > > videos, ha
> > > ha) they could have become a techno Daft Punk without changing their
> > > music at
> > all.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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