I missed something also,:) where was I called a troll. And what kind of troll. The small kind that dwell in caves or the kind that lures bate? What was that in reference to?
Also here's my comment. I sent it privately I guess but not to the list. If it double post,then sorry. Redmond, Ja'Maul wrote: > I don't have an argument about the gear. I can care less. They can use whatever. I guess my statement was off topic since it was more about whether the teqnique is acceptable. People can use whatever they want to perform, in my book. I was making a comment on the content of the music, which has nothing to do with "Hawtin live or Hawtin the d.j.". I saw one of my favorites ,Kit Clayton do the same thing but worse. Ambient music that trailed off to one singular distored sine wave. The wave carried on for 8 minutes. 8 straight f*ckin minutes of a sine wave. There comes a time when self expression become self absorbtion. We are performing to an audience are we not? I love minimal techno but I just can't listen to the same sample loop for 15 minutes with some fxs or vocals behind it regardless of the gear or the performer. > Ja'Maul Redmond 1100 S. Tryon St. Suite 300, Charlotte, NC 28203 t: 704.343.9900 f:704.343.9999 www.perkinswill.com Perkins+Will. Ideas + buildings that honor the broader goals of society -----Original Message----- From: Stoddard, Kamal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:52 AM To: 'Martin Dust'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... Too many chin-scratchers makes for dull vibe. Not enough leaves no quality control. This is waay too much chin scratching. Deciding on whether to see an artist based on his kit? Come on. Your going to see the artist not his tools. Part of that experience is the chance that he might do something unexpected, whether it works or not is up to the connection between the artist, the audience and the artistic execution. Personally I'm a big fan of the "take-a-chance-if-it-don't-pan-out-then-walk" method. Been working great for me for years. Anything else would be uncivilized. And why's jamaul a troll. Did I miss something? Kamal K. Stoddard Turner Broadcasting Systems "Bebop was about change, about evolution. It wasn't about standing still and becoming safe. If anybody wants to keep creating they have to be about change." > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 10:44 AM > To: Tosh Cooey > Cc: 313 > Subject: Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms... > > > > > Nope, do you want me to list what pants Surgeon wears when he plays at > Dust? After all if they are to tight the could make a difference. It's > just to anal and dull. If you go and see Richie and don't expect > minimal, I'd be wondering which rock you've be under. > > Do you read all the ingredients on the food you buy? > > It's the mentality that is wrong and more and more artist refuse to > have Live put at the side for any gig because it's impossible to > define and all the "techno bores" just love to jump down the promoters > throat. > Having the same kit or records won't make you into a Claude Young or > Surgeon, I don't see why the focus has shifted, bands don't list all > the kit they play on...why should we be any different? > > It's not the way it is, 99.9% of people don't care, they just came to > enjoy themselves not worry about which plug-in/needle/decks/pants > where used. > > Martin > > > > > > > Martin Dust wrote: > > > > > > Who cares Tosh to be honest... > > > > > > Martin > > > > How can you know what to expect when you see the name of a > performer > > on a flyer? > > > > For example if you see "Richie Hawtin" maybe you will expect what > > Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see "Richie Hawtin > LIVE" then > > what can you expect? > > > > Do performers need to start listing what gear they will be > performing > > with? > > > > Jeff Mills w/ 909, Abelton, and Slide Whistle. > > > > I know *I* certainly wouldn't want to go to a Hawtin show with the > > same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minutes, but I would go if > it was the > > Blue Machine and cycloops and the other junk... > > > > I also think anyone who wants to discuss if this is "right" > or "wrong" > > should be shot. It's the way it is, and at least let's try and > > develop an understanding of what's happening. > > > > Tosh > > >
