Ok, well at a recent party I did with the Outlet guys we had Ian O'Brien and Wildplanet on the bill. Wildplanet virtually bought a whole stdio with him rigged up through a 24 channel mixing desk. From my limited understanding of these things it appeared he was loading full tracks with all thier individual parts in from a laptop and then running them through all manner of synths and effects modules. For me that was a live show.

Ian OB hooked a laptop in and played unreleased stuff from Ableton along with regular 2 deck mixing. For me that was just a good DJ set.

Either way they both sounded dope though, that was the important thing.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Dust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tosh Cooey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "313 (E-mail)" <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...


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Nope, do you want me to list what pants Surgeon wears when he plays at Dust? After all if they are to tight the could make a difference. It's just to anal and dull. If you go and see Richie and don't expect minimal, I'd be wondering which rock you've be under.

Do you read all the ingredients on the food you buy?

It's the mentality that is wrong and more and more artist refuse to have Live put at the side for any gig because it's impossible to define and all the "techno bores" just love to jump down the promoters throat. Having the same kit or records won't make you into a Claude Young or Surgeon, I don't see why the focus has shifted, bands don't list all the kit they play on...why should we be any different?

It's not the way it is, 99.9% of people don't care, they just came to enjoy themselves not worry about which plug-in/needle/decks/pants where used.

Martin



Martin Dust wrote:
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> Who cares Tosh to be honest...
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> Martin

How can you know what to expect when you see the name of a performer on a flyer?

For example if you see "Richie Hawtin" maybe you will expect what Ja'Maul the Troll described. But if you see "Richie Hawtin LIVE" then what can you expect?

Do performers need to start listing what gear they will be performing with?

Jeff Mills w/ 909, Abelton, and Slide Whistle.

I know *I* certainly wouldn't want to go to a Hawtin show with the same minimal sample for 15 to 20 minutes, but I would go if it was the Blue Machine and cycloops and the other junk...

I also think anyone who wants to discuss if this is "right" or "wrong" should be shot. It's the way it is, and at least let's try and develop an understanding of what's happening.

Tosh





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