i feel you there, ja'maul.

i saw that shtick-- he played a one bar plastikman
loop for like 15 minutes. didn't even feel the need to
throw a little autofilter or something on there. very
minimal, i guess. 

and not to start another "diss rich" thread (i usually
enjoy his dj sets), but i've never heard him let a
single record play that long. and even looped bangers
have breaks...

which leads me to side with Martin on this. i don't
care what gear someone's running-- i want to hear a
spontaneous, responsive, interesting set of music.



--- "Redmond, Ja'Maul"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I can't say if it's live or not. I also can't say
> much about the
> performance there. But if it was anything like the
> performance here in
> america, I call it boring. 
> 
> He would literally  play that same minimal sample
> for 15 to 20 minute.
> 
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 8:43 AM
> To: Martin Dust
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: (313) Ok, time for a can of worms...
> 
> Martin Dust wrote:
> 
> >  It's not a matter of live with Ableton. It's more
> DJ set or 
> > Performers own material, they could have two
> spoons for me...
> 
> 
> --> Sorry, never meant it was a matter of Abelton,
> just abused them as
> an example.
> 
> As for: "It's more DJ set or Performers own
> material" well Ricardo was
> creating drums and just strange noises and
> triggering them by hand, and
> Richie was sampling records and playing with those,
> much like most
> musicians do these days with samples.
> 
> So were they live or DJ'ing?
> 
> Tosh
> 
> 
> > On 3 Dec 2004, at 11:55, Tosh Cooey wrote:
> > 
> >> After the weekend in London for the
> Richie/Ricardo spectacle I have a
> >> question:
> >>
> >> What exactly does "live" mean?
> >>
> >> Can the word "live" be replaced by "Playing their
> own music"?
> >>
> >> I ask because during the course of the show there
> were moments when 
> >> Richie would put on a record, grab a loop from
> the record and let 
> >> that play while Ricardo programmed live beats or
> just plain strange 
> >> bloobly noises and then Richie would go to work
> doing things with 
> >> effects and the foot controller or even just
> noodling about with
> Abelton LIVE...
> >>
> >> For large stretches of time not a record was
> playing.  Is that any 
> >> more or less live than somebody playing a "live"
> set from Abelton?
> >>
> >> It's really unfortunate that Fabric sequesters
> the DJs because to 
> >> watch them performing would be a lot of fun for
> the crowd I think.
> >>
> >> Tosh
> >> --
> >> McIntosh Cooey - Twelve Hundred Group LLC -
> http://www.1200group.com/
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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