Not now!

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From: Martin Dust [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 November 2005 16:51
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: 313@hyperreal.org; Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
Subject: Re: (313) Madonna..


You would though, wouldn't you Rob?

On 16 Nov 2005, at 16:45, Robert Taylor wrote:

>
> Sorry, was something I had to get off my chest - I loved her til Like  
> A Prayer.
> But now she really gets on my wick. There's something about her that  
> really grates.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 16 November 2005 16:42
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Madonna..
>
>
> On Wed, November 16, 2005 4:32 pm, Robert Taylor wrote:
>>
>> I dunno, something to do with the fact that she is the worst kind of
>> culture vulture - just read that she wants to 'do' krumping after  
>> watching
>> the Dave LaChappelle doc on it - he refused, so she recruited one of  
>> the
>> dancers. She exploits subcultures relentlessly -chewing them up and
>> spitting them out like a black scourge - each time she does it, she  
>> looks
>> more tired and desperate to appear with it and relevant. You don't do  
>> this
>> by leaping on every bandwagon that comes your way my dear, you have  
>> to be
>> innovative and original yourself. That's why I have no love for her -
>> she's a ruthless explotative hasbeen
>
> wow, and ive been accused of being a hater before!
>
> i just dont see it that way. for the most part, she does like to take
> things from other subcultures, this is true. but she does it very
> respectfully i think. she pays all these dance music producers very  
> well
> and gives them massive exposure they wouldnt otherwise receive, etc.  
> she
> doesnt ask that people change their stuff up to make it popular, she  
> just
> makes these things okay in popular culture by doing them. whats wrong  
> with
> that? if only other people with that kind of cultural power used that
> power to get money and props for musicians and people who deserve it! i
> guess bjork does to a much smaller degree, and maybe radiohead as well.
> but the list is very short and none of them are as popular as  
> madonna....
>
> tom
>
>
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