Right you are Giles,

The issue of Muzik magazine that came out (in the States) about a month ago
has a one or two-page interview with Shadow, and lists it as the #1 dance
album of all-time... though I agree with the reader comments that were a
little surprised to see it at #1 as it's a bit tough to dance to.  I do
think it's an amazing contribution to the genre, but I'm more partial to
Leftfield's "Leftism" as far as pure dancability.

Cheers,

-m

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From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 11:15 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org; Matthew Cloney
Subject: RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses


My God, Entroducing is an entirely notable work. His understanding of how
drums work is obvious in his programming. That's an amazign album, if you
listen to interviews you'll also see, he did that cut and paste style, very
very old school technique, using fairly lo-fi rgear.

- Giles

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> From:         Matthew Cloney
> Sent:         Friday, March 1, 2002 2:19 PM
> To:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject:      RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses
> 
> I think historically there's been a hierarchy of musical popularity, and
it
> all has to do with how "human" the music is as far as mass appeal.  I
would
> put things like experimental, industrial and techno at one end of the
> spectrum, and pop music at the other.  On the one end you've got something
> that is, by design, more mechanical and detached... marked by what the
vast
> majority of the population would consider "noise," while pop music oozes
> this saccharine dribble, so sycophantic to the masses that it becomes a
> self-fulfilling prophecy.  House is somewhere in-between.
> 
> Having said that, I must confess that I'm a huge house fan.  I like a lot
of
> different types of music though, and there are things that I like about
> every type of music that I listen to that draw me to that type of music
> (Tracey Thorn's voice is enough to make me melt, sight-unseen for
instance).
> 
> I mean, we all know what it takes to write a song that will be popular
with
> the public at large... it takes true genius to create something that will
be
> popular with your own crowd (or, most importantly, yourself).
> 
> And as far as electronic music artists "ripping off" other people,
> everything has been done before.  Some people think DJ Shadow's
> "Endtroducing" is just pure plagiarism, while those who are a little more
> open-minded may consider it art.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -m
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 10:53 AM
> To: Giles Dickerson
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [313] Marketinbg techno + house to the masses
> 
> 
> 
> >> Yes and No. The Chemical brothers and Fatboy Slim tend to choose a
> >single or a couple very catchy vocal edits and repeat them over and over.
> >We know they're samples but I think the general audience probably thinks
> >it might be the artist or a singer.
> 
> yeah fair point, that had occured to me when i compiled me last response,
> and actually the above is reinforced by the fact the FBS uses a fat guy in
> all the marketing shots (someone has nowt to do with the music...actually
> some might argue FBS has little to do with the music as all he does is rip
> off (sample) other peoples stuff...but that's a whole other argument and
> is perhaps a little below the belt :) )
> 
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