Wait a second... how is it _not_ the "fans" fault for Geist not getting paid for his music when people download via P2P before it's even out?
you can't blame the technology - it takes someone to drive that car to get it from A to B P2P/blogs/etc. sites aren't breaking into people's houses and forcing the files on them nobody is holding the "fans" at gun point and telling them that they MUST share the files with all of their friends they're doing it willingly and not thinking about what it costs the artist - especially the struggling independent artist people are looking to get something for nothing it is the "fans" fault but they just don't want to admit that their actions are hurting the musicians they claim to love it's a case of sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling "I can't hear you!" you can say that we're losing the old way of appreciating music but the fact remains that people are still taking the music and the musicians aren't getting paid for it it's pretty black and white - if you want the music you should give something in return that the musician can use most of the time, that something is financial funding if you don't have the money to pay the musician for it then you shouldn't have it - in a world that was good the musicians you wouldn't have people with half a gazillion tunes in their iTunes unless they are millionaires you should be content with having less music shouldn't be treated like a cheap commodity by the fans nor anyone else continuing to blame the technology lets the so-called fans off the hook - they don't have to face the fact that getting Morgan Geist's tracks off a friend hurts Morgan Geist MEK "JT Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 10:28:05 AM: > It's not really the fans' fault. The internet has forced a drastic > re-configuration of the music business, that so far has not found any > balance, it hasn't really re-configured in a sustainable way yet. MG > was right about iPods and the fact that nobody really _listens_ to > music anymore. The mp3 formulation flat-out sucks. I don't care what > site you uh cite. The "artifact" and "reality" of music is ceasing to > exist -- like MG says, seeing live music is becoming the only way to > have a real music experience now. Technophiles will rant and rave > about the freedom and access allowed by ethereal digital "objects", > but we are losing many of the old ways we marked and appreciated and > valued cultural fuel such as music...the digital revolution got ahead > of itself. It's not just because we're getting old. I'd go deeper and > talk about Western cultural trends and politics and blabla but I'm > tired. > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:26 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Reason it's not a business is because his "fans" won't let him make a > > living at it. You read what he said about people complimenting him on a > > record that isn't even released yet. > > That sucks. I've talked to struggling musicians who's so-called "fans" say > > straight to their face that they really enjoy their music but that they > > didn't pay for it - just got it off someone else or from a P2P site. > > > > That sucks and that's not any way to be a fan. > > > > I'm not surprised that Geist is feeling the way he is. How long could you > > possibly put up with that bullshyte before losing it? > > > > MEK > > > > Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 09/26/2008 05:03:50 AM: > > > >> > >> > > >> > Oh yeah. I agree. Don't get me wrong, the honesty in there is > >> > refreshing. The problem, as I see it, for people making a living from > >> > music is that it's hard to take that break unless you're very > >> > (financially) successful. > >> I guess they are going to have to accept that it's no longer a business > >> and back to a hobby. > >> > >> m > >> > >> > > > >
