I wonder if people regard me as a music thief - I don't buy much music these days as I tend to download DJ mixes that (mostly) friends put up. I stopped buying vinyl years ago as I had to give it up like an alcoholic has to give up booze. I go to parties and regard that as my economic contribution to 'the scene', rightly or wrongly.
Rob Taylor VT Librarian x8599 Hatch Desk x1088 VT Library Users' Guide -----Original Message----- From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 September 2008 14:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Morgan Geist interview Ah, see, my point has nothing to do with morals nor ethics. In my understanding the OP works for a music shop, rubadub if i'm not mistaken, a shop that most likely relies on repeat business by paying customers of music media, not just music gear. Sure, there are going to be people who use it legitimately, but if the OP's point was that most people just steal music, it's ironic at least and really bad business at worst that they're enabling their own lack of repeat business. Dig? After all, even the legitimate users of mp3s are not going to do (much) repeat media business at the shop. They're going to go to traxsource.com or junodownload.com or beatport.com, or any of the many other legitimate online music stores. As far as I can tell rubadub does not yet have an online music shop. So, while I didn't really mean to judge rubadub's decision to sell serato (notice my original post made no judgement other than that it's interesting) you have to admit that it does say something. I'd love to hear what else Jason or anybody in the rubadub crew has to say about their business model in this regard. On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 7:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why should it? One might advocate taking the choice of whether to > break the law out of the hands of the individual with technology when > it came to say, gun control. But in this case when there's a > perfectly legit way to use such gear why should a shop then have to > stop selling it because some people (even if the majority) are not using it in a "legal" and possibly not "moral" way. They're the ones ripping people off - if that's what they're doing (which doesn't mean to say I don't think they are, I'm just trying not to be involved in that argument while this other bit seems clear cut to me). > > >> From: Frank Glazer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 29 September 2008 12:29 >> >> interestingly this hasn't stopped you from selling serato. >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 6:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > A very quick interjection from me! >> > >> > We're a record retailer but we also sell DJ and Studio equipment- >> > we currently sell around 10 Serato systems a week and the number >> > has been growing steadily over the last 2 years. Almost without >> > fail the customer will tell us with a big grin on their faces that >> > Serato is great because "I don;t need to pay for music anyomore- I >> > just download it for free". It's so short sighted it almost >> > beggars belief- the majority of these people are actually taking >> > pride in getting something for "nothing". > > -- peace, frank dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com ##################################################################################### Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Channel Four Television Corporation unless specifically stated. This email and any files transmitted are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You. Channel Four Television Corporation, created by statute under English law, is at 124 Horseferry Road, London, SW1P 2TX . 4 Ventures Limited (Company No. 04106849), incorporated in England and Wales has its registered office at 124 Horseferry Road, London SW1P 2TX. VAT no: GB 626475817 #####################################################################################