The Fiat Uno was a pretty good car. It's being re-released in 2008, I think
by GM, based on a Ford Ka chassis though. Italians do it better eh?

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Gajewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 5:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Martin Dust
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to
lose out, I think Detroit would go under

As sad as it is for life in Detroit, the US auto industry has not exactly
learned any lessons from the 70's/80's when foreign cars started picking up
in terms of sales.  Plus, they neglect the American market in terms of
style, performance and most importantly quality.  They should have known
that their busines plans based on large trucks and SUV's in the 1990's would
only last for so long.  

I have known far too many people that work in the industry and feel
that they are owed something and have very little pride in their work, which
is a huge cause in the lack of quality.  I had two sides of my family
working for Ford or Chrysler (pre Daimler) and sadly this is really what I
saw growing up.  

I had two Chyslers and one Ford, none of which made it past 100k.  Well, the
Ford I dumped with 36k because it was already having problems.  

This might not be a popular view, but it is my honest opinion and it pains
me to say it as I love Detroit and all of my family there.  

It's sad really.  


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To: Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:44:31 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Business Automotive industry 'If General Motors were to
lose out, I think Detroit would go under

"We're not recyclers," he said of his countrymen. "We're consumers of
products."
the problem in a nutshell



MEK




Martin Dust <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/14/2008 09:06:49 AM:

> grim reading:
>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/nov/14/ford-chrysler-general-motors
>
> m
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