I wonder if Vic is running on Plan9

> On Oct 6, 2024, at 8:43 PM, vester.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
> 
> It's understandable to feel frustrated and make mistakes when dealing with 
> online harassment. I'm currently experiencing ongoing harassment and stalking 
> from certain individuals here. If I knew their real names, I would consider 
> taking legal action to address both their online and offline behaviors, and 
> possibly inform their employers if that would help resolve the issue. It's 
> really that serious. I'm unsure how to navigate this situation—it's 
> overwhelming and feels like pure madness, filled with projection.
> 
> Engaging with a community becomes incredibly difficult when some individuals 
> seem intent on harassing others for their own amusement.
> 
> - Vic
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2024, at 09:53, Don A. Bailey wrote:
>> This list should just be renamed to schizophreniaposting.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Oct 6, 2024, at 7:24 PM, Noam Preil <n...@pixelhero.dev> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I want to be 100% crystal clear here: vic has consistently dodged fault,
>>> used LLM-generated spam both on- and off-list, demonstrated an inability
>>> to distinguish between different people and between different venues,
>>> submitted patches that _do not compile_ and actively make code worse,
>>> and then accused reviewers of harassment for asking for an explanation,
>>> alternated between gaslighting people when confronted and dodging
>>> questions entirely, moved goalposts, and on and on and on.
>>> 
>>> Literally every post they've sent has had hallmarks of LLM behavior.
>>> 
>>> Vic's claim:
>>> 
>>>> . Unfortunately, instead of constructive feedback, I was asked to
>>>> remove the comments explaining my work, only to then be asked to
>>>> provide explanations afterward
>>> 
>>> What was actually asked,
>>> https://github.com/g-w1/plan9zig/pull/2#issuecomment-2394838562
>>> 
>>>> Most of these comments are redundant with what the code does.
>>>> Before I merge, could you please remove most of these redundant comments?
>>> 
>>> After taking a second look, the author noticed more problems, and
>>> followed up again:
>>> 
>>> https://github.com/g-w1/plan9zig/pull/2#issuecomment-2394851139
>>> 
>>>> Hmm, yeah a bunch of this code seems just plain hallucinated.
>>>> @vimanuelt can you explain why you made the changes you did?
>>> 
>>> There was not a request to remove explanations and then provide
>>> explanations. There was a request to remove _bad comments_, followed by
>>> the realization that the patch was submitted by a bot.
>>> 
>>> Most tellingly, "vic"'s comment on the PR appears incapable of
>>> distinguishing between the PR and this mailing list.
>>> 
>>>> feel free to contact me directly to reduce noise on the mailing list.
>>> 
>>> g-w1 and vic never interacted before that. g-w1 is not on this list.
>>> There _was no noise_ on this list as a result of the patches.
>>> Interestingly, eople on this list have complained about noise on the
>>> list as a result of vic.
>>> 
>>> Moreover, in their follow-up messages to the list, vic has accused
>>> people _on the list_ of criticizing the patches, but they did so _before
>>> anyone said anything here_.
>>> 
>>> The evidence is strong that Vic is, at best, an LLM and, at worst, an
>>> asshole, actively attempting to gaslight people about its own behaviors
>>> and comments, and attempting to guilt others for calling out its toxic
>>> actions.
>>> 
>>> In a response to a message asking people to be upfront
>>> about LLM usage, it responded as follows:
>>> 
>>>> I have noticed the emergence of LLMs in email clients and
>>>> word processors. Additionally, the need to cut and paste
>>>> results has been eliminated, making the integration seamless
>>>> and LLM usage soon commonplace.
>>>> It is easier and more honest to disclose their
>>>> use rather than calling out suspected users and diminishing
>>>> trust.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm not wasting more ink on this, but please, please
>>> please stop feeding the troll. It's not worth it.
>>> 
>>> - Noam Preil
>>> 

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