Kanchan, Beepers were actually installed on the platforms and not in the train.
But here we are talking about reserved coaches and not disabled coach alone. Regards, Srinivasu http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets Sent from my iPad On Jan 27, 2013, at 2:23 PM, "KanchanPamnani" <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some of the Mumbai suburban trains have a beeper on the compartment for the > Disabled or atleast it was planned to be there. Kanchan > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Mohith B. P. > Sent: 27 January 2013 12:58 > To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in > Subject: Re: [AI] Braille stickers in trains for visually-challenged > > Hi Srinivas, > > As for as my understanding Umesha is suggesting to have audio out put > at every dore with coatch number. > I feel this will help visually impaired people to find the right > coatch quickly as reading braille lables and moving in another > direction always hassel and there is a possibility of getting confused > of the direction to move to another coatch. > As the volume of the speakers are not as equally high as loud speakers > used for anouncements it may not confuse and moving closer to the > anouncement will surely help to understand whether we are at the right > coatch or not. > Phone app: surely it is a great idea, but it will not serve the > purpose for everyone since mejority VIs use basic hand sets. > > On 1/26/13, Srinivasu Chakravarthula <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >> Umesha, >> Thanks for this. Please see my responses below. >>> 1. while announcing the train shortly arriving into the station, they >>> should announce the position of disabled coach. >> Agreed. >> >>> 2. instead of Braille labels, making audio announcement of coach number >>> putting speakers at the doors of coaches facing outwards. this is very >>> much advantageous. one can listen from distance and no need of touching >>> the train to read coach number which is risky. flexibility to change >>> numbers since it is through computerized speech output. numbers can be >>> announced before the train stops completely so that visually impaired >>> persons can prepare themselves to board the coach within time. >> I'm not sure what you meant or I didn't understand it quite well. Wouldn't >> it be confusing, if coach starts speaking all at once? Other option, we > can >> think of a phone app, where you click on your phone app and you get the >> coach number around you or could locate and guide you to your desired > coach >> >>> 3. similar to talking ATMs, a talking I V R S based machine to give the >>> train schedule and train running information to VI with headphone. >> This is exactly what Harips is talking about kiosks >> >>> 4. reservation charts be made available in Braille and other accessible >>> formats. >> I am unsure asking Braille chart would be a reasonable ask, but SMS would > be >> fine. >> >>> 5. separate ticket counters for disabled including visually challenged >>> persons in major stations and exemption from the queue in small stations. >>> (once I visited such a counter in Bangalore city junction many years ago >>> to buy a ticket with my escort. the operator told me that only wheelchair >>> users are given tickets in that counter.) >> Agreed. >> >>> 6. issue of identity cards to VIs with unique number and make the > database >>> available while issuing tickets at the counter for verification instead > of >>> asking the Xerox of concession certificate. as you know, we face lot of >>> problems in getting tickets as they want to vary every part of our >>> certificate like seal, signature, name of the doctor, his/her register >>> number, etc. many times they ask us the name and register number when the >>> writing of doctors is illegible. in some places, they take several > minutes >>> to finish it. >> I agree, also this would save the paper, but issuing of a separate ID may >> not be a good idea. Probably UID should play a role. >> >> Regards, >> >> Srinivasu >> http://srinivasu.org Twitter: @vasutweets >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jan 26, 2013, at 4:27 PM, "Umesha Economics" <umesha....@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Harish has given a good list of recommendations. to add a few, >>> 1. while announcing the train shortly arriving into the station, they >>> should announce the position of disabled coach. >>> 2. instead of Braille labels, making audio announcement of coach number >>> putting speakers at the doors of coaches facing outwards. this is very >>> much advantageous. one can listen from distance and no need of touching >>> the train to read coach number which is risky. flexibility to change >>> numbers since it is through computerized speech output. numbers can be >>> announced before the train stops completely so that visually impaired >>> persons can prepare themselves to board the coach within time. >>> 3. similar to talking ATMs, a talking I V R S based machine to give the >>> train schedule and train running information to VI with headphone. >>> 4. reservation charts be made available in Braille and other accessible >>> formats. >>> 5. separate ticket counters for disabled including visually challenged >>> persons in major stations and exemption from the queue in small stations. >>> (once I visited such a counter in Bangalore city junction many years ago >>> to buy a ticket with my escort. the operator told me that only wheelchair >>> users are given tickets in that counter.) >>> 6. issue of identity cards to VIs with unique number and make the > database >>> available while issuing tickets at the counter for verification instead > of >>> asking the Xerox of concession certificate. as you know, we face lot of >>> problems in getting tickets as they want to vary every part of our >>> certificate like seal, signature, name of the doctor, his/her register >>> number, etc. many times they ask us the name and register number when the >>> writing of doctors is illegible. in some places, they take several > minutes >>> to finish it. >>> >>> Umesha >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Srinivasu Chakravarthula" >>> <li...@srinivasu.org> >>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Tuesday, 22 January, 2013 1:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Braille stickers in trains for visually-challenged >>> >>> >>>> Dear Harish, >>>> Certainly, this is a great list. I have captured them in a word document >>>> and soon put up on my website so that it will be add further notes. Soon >>>> I >>>> get the contact info, I shall email them and copy you on it. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> -Srini >>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Kotian, H P <hpkot...@rbi.org.in> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> * Gap between train and platform to be reduced to avoid fatal >>>>> accidents >>>>> * Floor of the platform and coach to be on the same level. >>>>> Especially usefully for wheel chair users >>>>> * Gap between 2 compartments to be filled up to avoid fatal >>>>> accidents especially to the blind >>>>> * Tactile skirting along the edge of the platform to avoid >>>>> falling >>>>> of visually impaired on the railway track. >>>>> * Tactile markings on the platform should lead from compartment >>>>> for >>>>> disabled to bridges, escalators, wash-rooms and exits. >>>>> * Inside the train, in addition to the station announcement, it >>>>> should announce the direction of the platform, give a steady tone when >>>>> it >>>>> is on the platform and make a rising tone when the train is about to >>>>> start. >>>>> * Display of Train information and announcements should be >>>>> prominently displayed so as to enable hearing impaired to get access. >>>>> * Auditory and Visual announcement of upcoming stations in the >>>>> train >>>>> * There should be a separate help-desk for the disabled on all >>>>> stations for providing assistance to the disabled including wheel chair >>>>> and >>>>> escort to the blind. There should be a centralized toll free telephone >>>>> number which would also be coordinating with these help-desks. >>>>> * Lift to be accessible for all including wheelchair users to use >>>>> the cross over bridges and move to platforms >>>>> * Automated ticket facility should be accessible to all kinds of >>>>> PWD >>>>> including visually impaired >>>>> Online ticketing should also be available while availing concessions >>>>> provided. >>>>> * Information Kiosks at Stations should be accessible to all as >>>>> per >>>>> Accessibility Guidelines >>>>> * Provide Sign Language support at help-desk for hearing impaired >>>>> users >>>>> * Train schedule available in alternate formats >>>>> * Accessible Toilets for PWDs >>>>> * Accessible Tactile Maps >>>>> * Berth Number in Accessible format >>>>> * All waiting rooms, cafeterias, night stay accommodation and >>>>> other >>>>> facilities provided at the station must be accessible to wheelchair >>>>> users >>>>> swell. >>>>> * have a boarding device such as a portable ramp or a hydraulic >>>>> lift >>>>> available on each platform to be used by wheelchair users wanting to >>>>> board >>>>> the train. Coolies must be trained in using it >>>>> * Coolies must be sensitized in assisting disabled passengers >>>>> Stations should designate reserved parking place for disabled persons. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula - Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/VasuTweets >>>> Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | http://www.learnaccessibility.org >>>> >>>> Let's create an inclusive web! >>>> >>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility >>>> of mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in >>>> >>>> >>>> Search for old postings at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>> >>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>> please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>> >>> >>> >>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility > of >>> mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing accessibility of >> mobile phones / Tabs on: > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind > ia.org.in >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > -- > "Strength is life, weakness is death" > > Best Regards > Mohith B. 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