Agreed Rick.

We run MOM as well as CIM (Cpq Insight Mgr) - should that now be 'HIM' ???

CIM is great for the low level stuff, disk failures and the like, and MOM is
a fairly acceptable tool for application / OS monitoring.

MOM needs a LOT of looking after as you said, amongst all the other things
I'm doing, MOM is one of them.  Currently spending about 1/2 the time
looking after MOM, and its not quite enough.

I have a number of gripes with the MOM interface, which I find confusing as
the NetIQ offering thats its dervied from is much cleaner and easier to use.
That being said, some of the trending and long term metrics is what makes
MOM really useful IMHO.  Pity the db size is so restricted in this version
*sigh*

G.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Kingslan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Microsoft MOM


> MOM has lots of promise - but it's like any other tool of this type.  It
> takes much care, quite a bit of skill, and a lot of commitment.  We have
one
> person who is all but dedicated to running MOM.
>
> As to the pieces of MOM that come in the AD Management Pack - well,
they're
> not bad.  But - they aren't great either.  There are a lot of holes, but
as
> mentioned - it takes tuning.  I suspect the holes are the pieces of our
> installation that need to be tuned to collect the right data to fill in.
> Given  enough data, MOM can be a great tool.  I suspect, given this depth
> and breadth of a tool - you're going to need 12 - 18 mos. Of historical
data
> built up before it becomes a PREDICTIVE tool - and not just a monitoring
> station.
>
> If all you want is monitoring, Dell Open Manage or HP/Compaq Insight
Manager
> is going to do that for you - and the cost is, well, let's just say a lot
> less. :o)
>
> MOM is a great tool.  It just needs LOTS of care and feeding.
>
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
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>
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>
> I was just looking at this and was wondering if anyone uses the AD
> monitoring stuff and if so how does it work?  Right now we have NETiQ but
it
> is not setup correctly so I was looking to start fresh with MOM.
>
>
> Thanks
> Ryan
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