Urban legend. 

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Funnily enough, I talked to a Microsoft technical person about this a few
weeks ago and he suggested that initially NetIQ licensed the software from
Microsoft, and Microsoft just took it back when they decided to develop
their own monitoring solution.

James R. Day
National Parks Service - AD Core Team
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MOM v2 is going to be very graphical.  Much better then  v1 or even NetIQ.
Yeah, Microsoft "boroughed" the functionality of NetIQ software and made it
pretty.  We are going to wait for v2 to come out, hopefully soon.

Currently we are using Nagios (running Linux) on our Windows Servers.
It free and does some basic monitoring.

S

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It does need a little mothering, yes, and it is probably overkill for a
smaller firm.
Isn't MOM an offspring of NetIQ?

And I work with the Exchange Management Pack mostly.

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> MOM has lots of promise - but it's like any other tool of this type.
It
> takes much care, quite a bit of skill, and a lot of commitment.  We
have
one
> person who is all but dedicated to running MOM.
>
> As to the pieces of MOM that come in the AD Management Pack - well,
they're
> not bad.  But - they aren't great either.  There are a lot of holes,
but
as
> mentioned - it takes tuning.  I suspect the holes are the pieces of
our
> installation that need to be tuned to collect the right data to fill
in.
> Given  enough data, MOM can be a great tool.  I suspect, given this
depth
> and breadth of a tool - you're going to need 12 - 18 mos. Of
historical
data
> built up before it becomes a PREDICTIVE tool - and not just a
monitoring
> station.
>
> If all you want is monitoring, Dell Open Manage or HP/Compaq Insight
Manager
> is going to do that for you - and the cost is, well, let's just say a
lot
> less. :o)
>
> MOM is a great tool.  It just needs LOTS of care and feeding.
>
> Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
> Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
> Associate Expert
> Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
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