>  openig a bunch of LIR only for transfering their /22 V4 to another LIR
>  is - and always was - abusing the policy.

Any links to documents proving it?

> but for me the way you are proposing to run a "business" is
> almost the same as the one of a guy selling stolen stuff ...

Such a comparison is incorrect.

23.04.2015, 15:27, "Opteamax GmbH" <[email protected]>:
>  Hello Gabriel,
>
>  openig a bunch of LIR only for transfering their /22 V4 to another LIR
>  is - and always was - abusing the policy. So you acutally don't want to
>  speak against the change of Transfer-Policy but want to keep the
>  backdoor open.
>
>  So if you think the last /8 policy is not OK - where consensus was
>  reached - you should stand up and make a change proposal for that.
>
>  Knowing the way to bypass policy still does not mean, that it is
>  fair/legal. IMHO LIRs which are willingly abusing policies shall get
>  their entire resources withdrawn immediately, as they are not willing to
>  be part of the community, so shall not profit from community.
>
>  Sorry, but for me the way you are proposing to run a "business" is
>  almost the same as the one of a guy selling stolen stuff ...
>
>  Regards
>  Jens
>
>  On 23.04.2015 14:05, Infinity Telecom SRL wrote:
>>   Hello Gert,
>>
>>   "at the transfer services"  i saw sellers that want 17-20 USD per IP,
>>    this is crazy, do you want forward ?
>>
>>   Do you think this is a normal ?
>>
>>   If right now they ask soo much even when they know someone like me can
>>   open a new LIR an close after 1 year.
>>
>>   What will happen when someone like me will open a LIR and pay 2 yrs
>>   before to move the IPs  to the old LIR
>>
>>   I tell you what will happen,  the sellers will put another 5-7 USD per
>>   IP, for sure.
>>
>>   Most of the guys that are pro this proposal have large blocks for sell..
>>
>>   I dont have large blocks.. i want to keep my IPs and have more resource..
>>
>>   Thank you.
>>
>>   /--
>>   Cu stima,
>>   Gabriel Voitis | Sales Manager
>>   /[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
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