> On application for IPv4 resources LIRs will receive IPv4 addresses according > to the following: > > The size of the allocation made will be exactly one /22. > > The sum of all allocations made to a single LIR by the RIPE NCC after the > 14th of September 2012 is limited to a maximum of 1024 IPv4 addresses (a > single /22 or the equivalent thereof). > > The LIR must confirm it will make assignment(s) from the allocation.
All this lines relates to receiving /22 from RIPE NCC! Not from other LIRs. Please read all 5.1 st from ripe-643 So merging own LIRs or receiving /22 from other member is not violation. 23.04.2015, 15:39, "Opteamax GmbH" <[email protected]>: > On 23.04.2015 14:31, Vladimir Andreev wrote: >>> openig a bunch of LIR only for transfering their /22 V4 to another LIR >>> is - and always was - abusing the policy. >> Any links to documents proving it? > > https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-643#51 > > Number 3 >>> but for me the way you are proposing to run a "business" is >>> almost the same as the one of a guy selling stolen stuff ... >> Such a comparison is incorrect. > > Maybe my comparison lacks do to difficulties translating into english: > The guy selling the stuff does not (necessarily) know that the one he > bought it from stole it. There are some of those shops, everybody know > that they not ask where stuff comes from, but nobody can blame the > shopowner ... > > Jens >> 23.04.2015, 15:27, "Opteamax GmbH" <[email protected]>: >>> Hello Gabriel, >>> >>> openig a bunch of LIR only for transfering their /22 V4 to another LIR >>> is - and always was - abusing the policy. So you acutally don't want to >>> speak against the change of Transfer-Policy but want to keep the >>> backdoor open. >>> >>> So if you think the last /8 policy is not OK - where consensus was >>> reached - you should stand up and make a change proposal for that. >>> >>> Knowing the way to bypass policy still does not mean, that it is >>> fair/legal. IMHO LIRs which are willingly abusing policies shall get >>> their entire resources withdrawn immediately, as they are not willing to >>> be part of the community, so shall not profit from community. >>> >>> Sorry, but for me the way you are proposing to run a "business" is >>> almost the same as the one of a guy selling stolen stuff ... >>> >>> Regards >>> Jens >>> >>> On 23.04.2015 14:05, Infinity Telecom SRL wrote: >>>> Hello Gert, >>>> >>>> "at the transfer services" i saw sellers that want 17-20 USD per IP, >>>> this is crazy, do you want forward ? >>>> >>>> Do you think this is a normal ? >>>> >>>> If right now they ask soo much even when they know someone like me can >>>> open a new LIR an close after 1 year. >>>> >>>> What will happen when someone like me will open a LIR and pay 2 yrs >>>> before to move the IPs to the old LIR >>>> >>>> I tell you what will happen, the sellers will put another 5-7 USD per >>>> IP, for sure. >>>> >>>> Most of the guys that are pro this proposal have large blocks for sell.. >>>> >>>> I dont have large blocks.. i want to keep my IPs and have more >>>> resource.. >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> /-- >>>> Cu stima, >>>> Gabriel Voitis | Sales Manager >>>> /[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> /INFINITY TELECOM SRL | Bd-ul Iuliu Maniu nr 7, Corp A, Scara 2 >>>> Mobil: +40 0725 677 477 | Tel: +40 021 7808805 | Fax: +40 021 >>>> 7808806 >>>> /[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> -- >>> Opteamax GmbH - RIPE-Team >>> Jens Ott >>> >>> Opteamax GmbH >>> >>> Simrockstr. 4b >>> 53619 Rheinbreitbach >>> >>> Tel.: +49 2224 969500 >>> Fax: +49 2224 97691059 >>> Email: [email protected] >>> >>> HRB: 23144, Amtsgericht Montabaur >>> Umsatzsteuer-ID.: DE264133989 >> -- >> With best regards, Vladimir Andreev >> General director, QuickSoft LLC >> Tel: +7 903 1750503 >> >> !DSPAM:637,5538e8fa275851377834544! > > -- > Opteamax GmbH - RIPE-Team > Jens Ott > > Opteamax GmbH > > Simrockstr. 4b > 53619 Rheinbreitbach > > Tel.: +49 2224 969500 > Fax: +49 2224 97691059 > Email: [email protected] > > HRB: 23144, Amtsgericht Montabaur > Umsatzsteuer-ID.: DE264133989 -- With best regards, Vladimir Andreev General director, QuickSoft LLC Tel: +7 903 1750503
