We are talking at cross purposes - ie not about he same thing. DA
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Allan Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 21/4/08 20:07, "Derek Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > it's a 19th century creation. > > Many things, musical and otherwise were created in the 19th century. The > term masters still originates in the guild system, with the old masters > governing workshops. Renaissance painters worked in workshops, with > apprentices and craftsmen painters with an older master painter who > consigned them work and governed their practices. I see that William has > given a more detailed account than I, and with enough imagination to > encompass pre-19th century usage. > > Among the things that were created in the 19th century was the music that > eventually became known as jazz, first as hot jazz. The mythic sounds of > Buddy Bolden are sometimes evoked as the initial renderings of jazz. > > Toodle-pip. > > Allan. > > -- Derek Allan http://www.home.netspeed.com.au/derek.allan/default.htm
