Calix is totally out of touch on pricing. We talked to them and really pushed on the pricing. They still sell their GPON gear like it was brand new technology they invented. In reality its 15 year old commodity tech. It *should* be cheap.
We are self funded and weren't looking to take on huge debt to get into FTTH which first led us to active and then to ZTE GPON. It works fine. 3rd party support knows the product well and their tools are better than the ZTE tools I think. This was just when the UFiber was first released in beta. It's probably a viable option now if it has the features you need, and you are willing to pay more(vs china gpon gear) for a USA brand you are familiar with. On Thu, Aug 30, 2018, 10:43 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Is this with UBNT? > Calix electronics cost per customer on GPON is about $570 for the > electronics. (both ends, pro-rata shares, cyber power, etc) > > *From:* Mark - Myakka Technologies > *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2018 8:38 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber > > Chuck, > > We do 1x32 so double these numbers. Basing this on our 7 slot chassis > using the expensive 10G uplink cards. > > Fully loaded 1x32 splits for 1792 customers $32/customer > > loaded with 4 cards for 1024 customers $35/customer > > > 1 card for 256 customers about $65/customers > > > Not going to argue that AE is cheaper. I will yield to that claim. > > > *-- Best regards,Mark *mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > > *Myakka Technologies, Inc.*www.MyakkaTech.com > > > > > > *------Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 8:40:25 PM, you wrote:* > > So, what is the cost per customer for a 16:1 PON system for the > electronics? > > *From:* Mark - Myakka Technologies > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 2:34 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber > > Chuck, > > My 0.02 > > First of all we would have to determine what type of AE we are talking > about. Are we talking a managed system like calix, zhone, etc with AE > cards in them using their respective OLT's? Or, are we talking about the > DIY stacking 48 port switches on top of each other and throwing some > mikrotiks out there? > > Also, we need to talk about density? How many customers are we talking? > AE is fine for smaller build outs, but doesn't scale well. The one big > advantage of AE over GPON is distance. You can economically run 4x as far > on AE as GPON. The best we can do on our GPON system is about 30km if we > us a Class C+ laser. > > Using my test cage as an example. This is a 4U cage with 7 slots. If I > use seven 8port cards, that gives me a maximum of 1792 customers in a 4U > space. That is 1792 customers powered by one redundant power supply > system. Also, that is 56 fiber cables running from the cage to the patch > panel. > > If I do AE on the 4U cage using 7 AE cards, I can get 140 customers in the > same space. About the same power requirements, but I'm using 140 fiber > cables at this point. > > Now if I move the the DIY AE system maybe I can get 48 per 1U. That will > give me 192 AE customers in a 4U space. But now I'm dealing with either 4 > or 8 power plugs. Not to mention 192 individual fiber jumpers to keep > track of. > > > Now there once was an argument that with AE, one could guarantee 1G speeds > at each port. I don't think that argument holds much water anymore. With > GPON you can sell 1G download speeds at 16 to 1 ratio. 10G GPON is > available now where you can down to 3 to 1 ration. I believe there is even > a 40G GPON so to be available. > > AE's advantage is distance and it being AE. For example being it is AE > you can interrupt fiber run with a wireless link if needed, can't do that > with GPON. > > > "If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all 30 > homes active E". That is great, but now you have to have a cabinet that > needs power and BBU. You are sharing a 1G , unless you you pop for a 10G > laser. Under GPON, you just go out and pop in a 1x32 splitter and off you > go. No cabinet or power needed. > > > At the end of the day the individual has to look at the pro/cons of each > system and figure out the right tool for the job. > > > *-- Best regards,Mark *mailto:m...@mailmt.com > > > *Myakka Technologies, Inc.*www.MyakkaTech.com > > > > > > *------Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 2:52:22 PM, you wrote:* > > So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use this > vs active ethernet? > > *From: * > *Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]**Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM > *To: * > *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group**Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber > > It works fine. We have it in 2 subdivisions. > It is brain dead simple to configure. > Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure. The ONU (cpe) can > run in bridge or router mode. I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are > capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat. > > Jim Bouse > Owner - Brazos WiFi > 979-985-5912 > http://www.brazoswifi.com > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <Af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber > > Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment? 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