Title: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
Jason,

Trouble shooting a splitter isn't that bad.  If everyone after the splitter is having an issue it is either the splitter or before the splitter.  If only one person is having the issue then it is after the splitter.

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Thursday, August 30, 2018, 2:50:40 AM, you wrote:


For me, troubleshooting a problem with a link is a huge advantage of AE. You could just do a splitter at the cabinet with PON and get a lot of the same advantages - then the only advantage PON has is power usage though.

On Wednesday, August 29, 2018, Eric Kuhnke <
eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not mentioned, but the other HUGE advantage of AE is that you're able to use a huge variety of equipment. The amount of stuff out there that you can do AE with vs GPON is like a 90:1 ratio. I have an AE setup using a datacenter-grade Arista 7148 capable of 1/10GbE to the customer and it was a very affordable switch to purchase.

You can use all sorts of ex-datacenter equipment and things that were designed for corporate LAN aggregation and leaf/spline architecture, repurposed for AE residential. With GPON you have maybe ten realistic choices of equipment vendors.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:36 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <
m...@mailmt.com> wrote:

Chuck,

My 0.02

First of all we would have to determine what type of AE we are talking about.  Are we talking a managed system like calix, zhone, etc with AE cards in them using their respective OLT's? Or, are we talking about the DIY stacking 48 port switches on top of each other and throwing some mikrotiks out there?

Also, we need to talk about density?  How many customers are we talking?  AE is fine for smaller build outs, but doesn't scale well.  The one big advantage of AE over GPON is distance.  You can economically run 4x as far on AE as GPON.  The best we can do on our GPON system is about 30km if we us a Class C+ laser.

Using my test cage as an example.  This is a 4U cage with 7 slots.  If I use seven 8port cards, that gives me a maximum of 1792 customers in a 4U space. That is 1792 customers powered by one redundant power supply system.  Also, that is 56 fiber cables running from the cage to the patch panel.

If I do AE on the 4U cage using 7 AE cards, I can get 140 customers in the same space.  About the same power requirements, but I'm using 140 fiber cables at this point.

Now if I move the the DIY AE system maybe I can get 48 per 1U.  That will give me 192 AE customers in a 4U space.  But now I'm dealing with either 4 or 8 power plugs.  Not to mention 192 individual fiber jumpers to keep track of.


Now there once was an argument that with AE, one could guarantee 1G speeds at each port.  I don't think that argument holds much water anymore.  With GPON you can sell 1G download speeds at 16 to 1 ratio.  10G GPON is available now where you can down to 3 to 1 ration.  I believe there is even a 40G GPON so to be available.

AE's advantage is distance and it being AE.  For example being it is AE you can interrupt fiber run with a wireless link if needed, can't do that with GPON.


"If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all 30 homes active E".  That is great, but now you have to have a cabinet that needs power and BBU.  You are sharing a 1G , unless you you pop for a 10G laser.  Under GPON, you just go out and pop in a 1x32 splitter and off you go. No cabinet or power needed.


At the end of the day the individual has to look at the pro/cons of each system and figure out the right tool for the job.
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Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 2:52:22 PM, you wrote:


So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use this vs active ethernet?

From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

It works fine.  We have it in 2 subdivisions.
It is brain dead simple to configure.
Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.  The ONU (cpe) can run in bridge or router mode.  I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat.

Jim Bouse
Owner - Brazos WiFi
979-985-5912
http://www.brazoswifi.com

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <
Af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment?  I have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought I'd check with the group.

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