They replaced the DVR+ with the Stream+. It looks mostly similar, but is
cheaper. Don't really care for the new form factor, but it's not obnoxious.

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On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 4:58 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, but the DVR+ appears to be discontinued.
>
> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 6:38 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Similar to the DVR+. It has 2 tuners, which works great for us. If you're
>> watching live TV, you can pause/rewind/fast forward. You can record two
>> programs while watching a pre-recorded show. It also has several "streaming
>> channels", but we almost never watch them through the DVR+. If we want to
>> stream something, we go through the Roku. Roku connects us to pretty much
>> anything we're interested in; Netflix, Prime, Hulu, Vudu. There must be 30
>> or 40 different streaming thingies.
>>
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>>
>> On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 3:22 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> So, the AirTV does have an ethernet port on it, and it works fine to
>>> just plug it into the lan instead of using wifi. After it's setup, the over
>>> the air channels show up in the Sling app, just like the Sling streaming
>>> channels. They do give you the option of signing up for a free account if
>>> you don't want to subscribe to Sling.
>>>
>>> The biggest problem I see with it, is that you can't pause and rewind
>>> live tv... you can start recording something and then go watch the recorded
>>> program to be able to pause and rewind, but that's a bit of a pain.
>>>
>>> They do have another box, the AirTV Player (which is basically an
>>> Android TV box with a USB tuner that plugs into it), that does let you
>>> pause and rewind live TV, but it only works for one TV, and you need to
>>> have an antenna connected to it.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 9:04 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When you get it, please let me know how I can get the content off of it
>>>> without using wifi, if possible.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 7:45 PM
>>>> *To:* AFMUG
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical
>>>>
>>>> You don't need a sling subscription (or at least not a paid one), and
>>>> it does have an ethernet port.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 8:39 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Two downsides I see:
>>>>> 1)    It wants you to subscribe to SlingTV.  While I do subscribe I
>>>>> don’t want to have to subscribe.  That makes me not want to buy it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2)    It delivers content via wifi.  It probably would not talk from
>>>>> my basement to my upstairs.  If it has the ability to deliver via lan then
>>>>> it is much more useful to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 7:33 PM
>>>>> *To:* AFMUG
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical
>>>>>
>>>>> I just ordered one of these:
>>>>> https://www.airtv.net/products/airtv/
>>>>>
>>>>> The only downside I see compared to the Amazon thing is that it's only
>>>>> got two tuners instead of four, but it's a lot cheaper and it works with a
>>>>> roku. You do need a USB hard drive for dvr functions, since it doesn't 
>>>>> have
>>>>> one built in. Sling has a deal going right now for a free one if you 
>>>>> prepay
>>>>> for 3 months of service (which is only $75).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 7:58 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeahbut, I need OTA DVR.  I use Roku for almost everything else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 6:53 PM
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've really been liking Roku for a streaming device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:32 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tivo send me an ad trying to get me to upgrade to their latest box.
>>>>>>> I have a Roamio.  I own it.  I don’t pay them anything monthly.  After 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> upgrade deal went away, my Roamio bricked...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Arrgh.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Might go with Amazon Firebox...
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>>>>> On Jan 14, 2019 7:58 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeahbut, I need OTA DVR.  I use Roku for almost everything else.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Jason McKemie
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2019 6:53 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical
>>>>>
>>>>> I've really been liking Roku for a streaming device.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:32 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tivo send me an ad trying to get me to upgrade to their latest box.
>>>>>> I have a Roamio.  I own it.  I don’t pay them anything monthly.  After 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> upgrade deal went away, my Roamio bricked...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Arrgh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Might go with Amazon Firebox...
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