Dang, I want to put the thing in the basement TV room where my antenna signal 
is and then be able to view it upstairs.  Roamio and mini were good for that.  
But I don’t want to reinvest in that brand.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 7:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical

Nope, one TV only. It appears to have HDMI and an ethernet port.

On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 8:13 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Can you watch the DVR from other TVs?
  I presume it has hdmi out for the video?
  Ethernet lan or wifi only?

  From: Bill Prince 
  Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 6:16 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical

  This page has a comparison of the Stream+, Romio, Fire TV Recast, and Tablo. 
Romio has 4 tuners, but requires a subscription. 

  https://www.channelmaster.com/OTA_DVR_s/336.htm

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  On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 5:11 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

    They replaced the DVR+ with the Stream+. It looks mostly similar, but is 
cheaper. Don't really care for the new form factor, but it's not obnoxious. 

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    On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 4:58 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

      Yeah, but the DVR+ appears to be discontinued. 

      On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 6:38 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Similar to the DVR+. It has 2 tuners, which works great for us. If 
you're watching live TV, you can pause/rewind/fast forward. You can record two 
programs while watching a pre-recorded show. It also has several "streaming 
channels", but we almost never watch them through the DVR+. If we want to 
stream something, we go through the Roku. Roku connects us to pretty much 
anything we're interested in; Netflix, Prime, Hulu, Vudu. There must be 30 or 
40 different streaming thingies. 

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        On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 3:22 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

          So, the AirTV does have an ethernet port on it, and it works fine to 
just plug it into the lan instead of using wifi. After it's setup, the over the 
air channels show up in the Sling app, just like the Sling streaming channels. 
They do give you the option of signing up for a free account if you don't want 
to subscribe to Sling.  

          The biggest problem I see with it, is that you can't pause and rewind 
live tv... you can start recording something and then go watch the recorded 
program to be able to pause and rewind, but that's a bit of a pain.

          They do have another box, the AirTV Player (which is basically an 
Android TV box with a USB tuner that plugs into it), that does let you pause 
and rewind live TV, but it only works for one TV, and you need to have an 
antenna connected to it.

          On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 9:04 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

            When you get it, please let me know how I can get the content off 
of it without using wifi, if possible.  

            From: Mathew Howard 
            Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:45 PM
            To: AFMUG 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical

            You don't need a sling subscription (or at least not a paid one), 
and it does have an ethernet port. 

            On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 8:39 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

              Two downsides I see:
              1)    It wants you to subscribe to SlingTV.  While I do subscribe 
I don’t want to have to subscribe.  That makes me not want to buy it.

              2)    It delivers content via wifi.  It probably would not talk 
from my basement to my upstairs.  If it has the ability to deliver via lan then 
it is much more useful to me.  

              From: Mathew Howard 
              Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 7:33 PM
              To: AFMUG 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical

              I just ordered one of these: 
              https://www.airtv.net/products/airtv/


              The only downside I see compared to the Amazon thing is that it's 
only got two tuners instead of four, but it's a lot cheaper and it works with a 
roku. You do need a USB hard drive for dvr functions, since it doesn't have one 
built in. Sling has a deal going right now for a free one if you prepay for 3 
months of service (which is only $75).


              On Mon, Jan 14, 2019, 7:58 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

                Yeahbut, I need OTA DVR.  I use Roku for almost everything 
else.  

                From: Jason McKemie 
                Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 6:53 PM
                To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical

                I've really been liking Roku for a streaming device.

                On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:32 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
wrote:

                  Tivo send me an ad trying to get me to upgrade to their 
latest box.  I have a Roamio.  I own it.  I don’t pay them anything monthly.  
After the upgrade deal went away, my Roamio bricked...

                  Arrgh.

                  Might go with Amazon Firebox...
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              On Jan 14, 2019 7:58 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

                Yeahbut, I need OTA DVR.  I use Roku for almost everything 
else.  

                From: Jason McKemie 
                Sent: Monday, January 14, 2019 6:53 PM
                To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT cynical

                I've really been liking Roku for a streaming device.

                On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:32 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
wrote:

                  Tivo send me an ad trying to get me to upgrade to their 
latest box.  I have a Roamio.  I own it.  I don’t pay them anything monthly.  
After the upgrade deal went away, my Roamio bricked...

                  Arrgh.

                  Might go with Amazon Firebox...
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