Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4 cylinder Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered) base model and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. Power windows/locks/etc.
Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to do audio as well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer makes > probably is missing a variety of features one is used to. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? 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Still a far cry from $40 or $50. >> >> On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: >> > That's $32,780... >> > >> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes >> > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: >> > >> > That’s the current model. >> > >> > Here’s the bill of sale: >> > >> > image1.jpeg >> > >> > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman >> > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> That's $36k, 20% more... >> >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >> 1100 Wayne St >> >> Suite 1337 >> >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes >> >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> >> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: >> >> >> >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the office. >> >> >> >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue. >> >> >> >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k. >> >> >> >> <image1.png> >> >> >> >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman >> >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com >> >> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a year? >> >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell >> >>> remarkably bad. >> >>> >> >>> Josh Luthman >> >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >>> 1100 Wayne St >> >>> Suite 1337 >> >>> Troy, OH 45373 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert >> >>> <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Last year lot sitter, sure.... >> >>> >> >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >> >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for >> >>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no way they're >> >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else with a >> >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k when I see >> >>>> the bill of sale. >> >>>> >> >>>> Josh Luthman >> >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >> >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> >>>> 1100 Wayne St >> >>>> Suite 1337 >> >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes >> >>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net >> >>>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and $50-$60k is >> >>>> way too much. We >> >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two years ago >> >>>> for $30k... outfitted >> >>>> well. >> >>>> >> >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on their semi >> >>>> truck, as long as the >> >>>> > performance, specifications, reliability, utility >> >>>> are as promised, I >> >>>> > care much less about how it appears. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at >> >>>> least the $50k to have >> >>>> > AWD. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too >> >>>> much money for a truck." >> >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I >> >>>> haven't seen what the >> >>>> > electric ATV costs. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I also wonder what else changes between the tiers. >> >>>> Adding more motors >> >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so >> >>>> what's happening with the >> >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries >> >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so >> >>>> > what's up with the extra motors? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a >> >>>> house with my daily >> >>>> > driver because I can always get something from the >> >>>> farm. I just want it >> >>>> > to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even >> >>>> the 14k towing would >> >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the EVs... how >> >>>> easy is it to add (or >> >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe >> >>>> Rivian had it >> >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a >> >>>> bunch of tools for a >> >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but >> >>>> I suppose that could >> >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need >> >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet >> >>>> > their advertised performance numbers. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal, >> >>>> I'd probably prefer the >> >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare >> >>>> out. What's the "mpg" >> >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > ----- >> >>>> > Mike Hammett >> >>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >>>> <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >>>> > >> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< >> https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< >> https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> >>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange < >> http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> >>>> > >> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< >> https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< >> https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> >>>> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/ >> > >> >>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> < >> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com >> >>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> >> >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> >>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> >> >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM >> >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments from this >> >>>> crowd. Was everyone >> >>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out to place >> >>>> your pre-orders? >> >>>> > >> >>>> > I think I saw one comment that it looked like a >> >>>> cross between an El >> >>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It certainly was not >> >>>> what I expected when I >> >>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric >> >>>> truck. It sounds like >> >>>> > the 3 motor version will indeed be fast, but how >> >>>> big a market is there >> >>>> > for a fast, expensive, ugly truck? 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