woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?! On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
> Having gone through Porsche ordering hell, 8K gets you cupholders > finally, Sound system? More like 15... > > On 11/22/2019 01:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4 cylinder > > Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered) base model > > and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. Power windows/locks/etc. > > > > Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in > > options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to do > > audio as well. > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net > > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > > > > It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer makes > > probably is missing a variety of features one is used to. > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< > https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< > https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> > > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > > > Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac. > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net > > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > > > > Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio? > > > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< > https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< > https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> > > *To: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com > > <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users > > Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > > > OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50. > > > > On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > > That's $32,780... > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes > > > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote: > > > > > > That’s the current model. > > > > > > Here’s the bill of sale: > > > > > > image1.jpeg > > > > > > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman > > > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> That's $36k, 20% more... > > >> > > >> Josh Luthman > > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > > >> 1100 Wayne St > > >> Suite 1337 > > >> Troy, OH 45373 > > >> > > >> > > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes > > >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > > >> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote: > > >> > > >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the > > office. > > >> > > >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No > issue. > > >> > > >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k. > > >> > > >> <image1.png> > > >> > > >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman > > >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > > >> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote: > > >> > > >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a > > year? > > >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell > > >>> remarkably bad. > > >>> > > >>> Josh Luthman > > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > > >>> 1100 Wayne St > > >>> Suite 1337 > > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert > > >>> <i...@avantwireless.com > > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com > > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Last year lot sitter, sure.... > > >>> > > >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, > > Tundra for > > >>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no > > way they're > > >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else > > with a > > >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k > > when I see > > >>>> the bill of sale. > > >>>> > > >>>> Josh Luthman > > >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > > >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > > >>>> 1100 Wayne St > > >>>> Suite 1337 > > >>>> Troy, OH 45373 > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes > > >>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > > >>>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and > > $50-$60k is > > >>>> way too much. We > > >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two > > years ago > > >>>> for $30k... outfitted > > >>>> well. > > >>>> > > >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on > > their semi > > >>>> truck, as long as the > > >>>> > performance, specifications, > > reliability, utility > > >>>> are as promised, I > > >>>> > care much less about how it appears. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though > > I'd want at > > >>>> least the $50k to have > > >>>> > AWD. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, > > that too > > >>>> much money for a truck." > > >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks > > cost. I > > >>>> haven't seen what the > > >>>> > electric ATV costs. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > I also wonder what else changes between > > the tiers. > > >>>> Adding more motors > > >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the > > vehicle, so > > >>>> what's happening with the > > >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more > batteries > > >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so > > >>>> > what's up with the extra motors? > > >>>> > > > >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need > > to pull a > > >>>> house with my daily > > >>>> > driver because I can always get > > something from the > > >>>> farm. I just want it > > >>>> > to be big enough to handle most things. > > Hell, even > > >>>> the 14k towing would > > >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the > > EVs... how > > >>>> easy is it to add (or > > >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth > > wheel, etc. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau > > cover. Maybe > > >>>> Rivian had it > > >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place > > to store a > > >>>> bunch of tools for a > > >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a > > ladder rack. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery > > specs, but > > >>>> I suppose that could > > >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if > > they need > > >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet > > >>>> > their advertised performance numbers. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well. > > >>>> > > > >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All > > else equal, > > >>>> I'd probably prefer the > > >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things > > actually bare > > >>>> out. What's the "mpg" > > >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be > MPkWh? > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > ----- > > >>>> > Mike Hammett > > >>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > >>>> <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>< > https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>< > https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > > >>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange > > <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>< > https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>< > https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > > >>>> > The Brothers WISP > > <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > > >>>> > < > https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com > > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > > >>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com > > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>> > > >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > > >>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> > > >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 > 9:25:31 AM > > >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck > > >>>> > > > >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments > > from this > > >>>> crowd. 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