Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4 cylinder
Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered) base model
and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. Power windows/locks/etc.
Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in
options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to do
audio as well.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer makes
probably is missing a variety of features one is used to.
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*From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
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*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com
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*Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac.
Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?
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*From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
*To: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users
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*Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50.
On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> That's $32,780...
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>
> That’s the current model.
>
> Here’s the bill of sale:
>
> image1.jpeg
>
> On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>>
> wrote:
>
>> That's $36k, 20% more...
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>
>> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the
office.
>>
>> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue.
>>
>> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
>>
>> <image1.png>
>>
>> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a
year?
>>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell
>>> remarkably bad.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
>>> <i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com
<mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Last year lot sitter, sure....
>>>
>>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled,
Tundra for
>>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no
way they're
>>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else
with a
>>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k
when I see
>>>> the bill of sale.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes
>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and
$50-$60k is
>>>> way too much. We
>>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two
years ago
>>>> for $30k... outfitted
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on
their semi
>>>> truck, as long as the
>>>> > performance, specifications,
reliability, utility
>>>> are as promised, I
>>>> > care much less about how it appears.
>>>> >
>>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though
I'd want at
>>>> least the $50k to have
>>>> > AWD.
>>>> >
>>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG,
that too
>>>> much money for a truck."
>>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks
cost. I
>>>> haven't seen what the
>>>> > electric ATV costs.
>>>> >
>>>> > I also wonder what else changes between
the tiers.
>>>> Adding more motors
>>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the
vehicle, so
>>>> what's happening with the
>>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries
>>>> shouldn't make it faster, so
>>>> > what's up with the extra motors?
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need
to pull a
>>>> house with my daily
>>>> > driver because I can always get
something from the
>>>> farm. I just want it
>>>> > to be big enough to handle most things.
Hell, even
>>>> the 14k towing would
>>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
>>>> >
>>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the
EVs... how
>>>> easy is it to add (or
>>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth
wheel, etc.
>>>> >
>>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau
cover. Maybe
>>>> Rivian had it
>>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place
to store a
>>>> bunch of tools for a
>>>> > work truck, though no place to add a
ladder rack.
>>>> >
>>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery
specs, but
>>>> I suppose that could
>>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if
they need
>>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet
>>>> > their advertised performance numbers.
>>>> >
>>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All
else equal,
>>>> I'd probably prefer the
>>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things
actually bare
>>>> out. What's the "mpg"
>>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > -----
>>>> > Mike Hammett
>>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> >
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>>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM
>>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
>>>> >
>>>> > I was expecting to see some comments
from this
>>>> crowd. Was everyone
>>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out
to place
>>>> your pre-orders?
>>>> >
>>>> > I think I saw one comment that it looked
like a
>>>> cross between an El
>>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It
certainly was not
>>>> what I expected when I
>>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out an
electric
>>>> truck. It sounds like
>>>> > the 3 motor version will indeed be fast,
but how
>>>> big a market is there
>>>> > for a fast, expensive, ugly truck?
Maybe more
>>>> than I realize.
>>>> >
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