Are we talking about a car or a truck?  What does the Cybertruck weigh compared 
to a Tesla car, or to a standard pickup?  With the batteries and stainless 
steel body, it has to be really heavy.  That should affect mileage accelerating 
and going up hills, although I guess it could recapture some of that.

Maybe it's not fair to compare it to a pickup truck, that's not how people are 
going to use it.  You're not going to see Cybertrucks running around with 
ladder racks, or sheets of drywall in the bed.  There will be electric pickups 
from Ford/GM/RAM/Toyota for that, but they will look just like the gas or 
diesel versions.  I can see  businesses buying Cybertrucks and wrapping them 
with company logo or ads, kind of like they used to be with Hummers.


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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 11:57 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

Right. But my point is you burn more power going up than you’ll regenerate 
going down. 

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yah. Teslas are not like that. Going down a mountain generates power. Slowing 
> down (sort of braking) generates power. In aggressive throttle mode, you 
> hardly have to touch the brake as you can accelerate and slow down with 
> regenerative braking.
> 
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
>> On 11/30/2019 8:58 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> My experience with a Toyota Prius the other week was that climbing a hill I 
>> could deplete the battery but coming down would not charge it.
>> 
>> So yes. You’ll get into a deficit.
>> 
>>>> On Nov 30, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/30/19 5:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>> Depends on distance.  My car is always charged.  So I always have 200 
>>>> miles on the tank.  At the end of a full day of driving yes it needs to be 
>>>> charged.  Local police departments are making Teslas work.  Just takes a 
>>>> different mindset.  No maintenance and a truck good for a half million 
>>>> miles with no fuel costs is pretty attractive to me (I charge with solar).
>>> How much do you lose climbing elevation? Let's say sea level up to 7000' 
>>> 180 miles uphill (San Fransisco to Donner Pass). It's a minimal grade for 
>>> the first 100 miles then the last 80 is nothing but uphill. Back when Tesla 
>>> was first doing their supercharger network thing they put ones in Roseville 
>>> (basically the bottom of the hill) and more in Truckee (just past the 
>>> summit) so the assumption was that the climb is hard and you would charge 
>>> before going up the hill and charge again after the climb. Even just to go 
>>> to Lake Tahoe requires crossing an 8000' summit (Reno is around 4200').
>>> 
>>> I'd like to get my wife an electric car, but it seems like normal mountain 
>>> driving would eat the battery quickly and then it never gets used except 
>>> for flat driving to and from her job or shopping. I'll have 16.3kW DC of 
>>> solar panels by the end of February and the way I see it is free "fuel" for 
>>> the car. I don't care about saving the planet as much as I am interested in 
>>> technology.
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