It is 1000 lbs more than an F150, per people who analyzed the F150 vs. Tesla truck pulling fiasco... But compare that to say a Ram 2500 diesel and you are even in weight and comparable in capacity with the edge to Cybertruck still...

On 11/30/2019 10:44 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Are we talking about a car or a truck?  What does the Cybertruck weigh compared 
to a Tesla car, or to a standard pickup?  With the batteries and stainless 
steel body, it has to be really heavy.  That should affect mileage accelerating 
and going up hills, although I guess it could recapture some of that.

Maybe it's not fair to compare it to a pickup truck, that's not how people are 
going to use it.  You're not going to see Cybertrucks running around with 
ladder racks, or sheets of drywall in the bed.  There will be electric pickups 
from Ford/GM/RAM/Toyota for that, but they will look just like the gas or 
diesel versions.  I can see  businesses buying Cybertrucks and wrapping them 
with company logo or ads, kind of like they used to be with Hummers.


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Right. But my point is you burn more power going up than you’ll regenerate 
going down.

On Nov 30, 2019, at 12:15 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yah. Teslas are not like that. Going down a mountain generates power. Slowing 
down (sort of braking) generates power. In aggressive throttle mode, you hardly 
have to touch the brake as you can accelerate and slow down with regenerative 
braking.


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On 11/30/2019 8:58 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
My experience with a Toyota Prius the other week was that climbing a hill I 
could deplete the battery but coming down would not charge it.

So yes. You’ll get into a deficit.

On Nov 30, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:

On 11/30/19 5:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
Depends on distance.  My car is always charged.  So I always have 200 miles on 
the tank.  At the end of a full day of driving yes it needs to be charged.  
Local police departments are making Teslas work.  Just takes a different 
mindset.  No maintenance and a truck good for a half million miles with no fuel 
costs is pretty attractive to me (I charge with solar).
How much do you lose climbing elevation? Let's say sea level up to 7000' 180 
miles uphill (San Fransisco to Donner Pass). It's a minimal grade for the first 
100 miles then the last 80 is nothing but uphill. Back when Tesla was first 
doing their supercharger network thing they put ones in Roseville (basically 
the bottom of the hill) and more in Truckee (just past the summit) so the 
assumption was that the climb is hard and you would charge before going up the 
hill and charge again after the climb. Even just to go to Lake Tahoe requires 
crossing an 8000' summit (Reno is around 4200').

I'd like to get my wife an electric car, but it seems like normal mountain driving would 
eat the battery quickly and then it never gets used except for flat driving to and from 
her job or shopping. I'll have 16.3kW DC of solar panels by the end of February and the 
way I see it is free "fuel" for the car. I don't care about saving the planet 
as much as I am interested in technology.

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