The answer to your question is complicated.   The short answer is that not
in the way you stated it, as there isn't good enough clock hardware in the
rackinjector to do this holdover, and the current electrical architecture
isn't set up to permit the generation of a clock internally.   We're
looking at some options though so you might see something like this in the
future.    We're also looking at doing a hardware revision to the control
board to permit a high quality holdover oscillator to be added.    This
work was underway well before this event, but hasn't progressed to the
point that there are really any details as to what form this might take and
when it might happen.

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 4:00 PM Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> A great feature would be for the RackInjector to generate it's own
> hold-over sync if it were to loose GPS. Any possibility of including
> something like that in the next firmware update?
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:45 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> One note is that on later RackInjectors, rebooting the rackinjector not
>> only won't reboot attached devices, it also won't reboot the GPS receiver.
>>  This is to permit reboots of the control interface without affecting
>> connected device at all.   This includes *most* firmware upgrades.
>>
>> So for the later boards, you'll need to reset it on the GPS status page.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 6:29 PM Andreas Wiatowski <andr...@silo.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Forrest, let us know what you find. I can confirm that I have
>>> done the power cycle on the Rack injectors....we have seen the same issue
>>> occur again...feels like interference.
>>>
>>> It has been suggested by some to switch to Autosync+Freerun to avoid
>>> loss of client use...I guess it really depends on your networks reuse
>>> scheme.
>>>
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>>> > On Dec 31, 2019, at 8:05 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >  [EXTERNAL]
>>> > Just an update/random informational message, a lot of which is pretty
>>> obvious from this thread:
>>> >
>>> > 1) As is pretty obvious at this point, something happened either with
>>> the GPS constellation or with the firmware which runs in the GPS module, or
>>> some combination of those. What many of you might not be aware of is that
>>> many vendors use the same GPS modules from the same vendor. Generally a
>>> certain portion of the uGPS, PacketFlux, ePMP all will use the same module,
>>> along with other vendors. Each of the vendors (including PacketFlux) has
>>> changed the exact model of the module over the years, for instance the
>>> GPS+glonass modules are in newer devices, and GPS only are in older ones.
>>> I'm working through determining whether this is just the GPS+GLONASS
>>> modules which are affected (it seems like it might be the case), or if it's
>>> a few different types. Note that because this seems like it might be
>>> confined to a certain type (or types) of module, that it might turn out to
>>> be only certain date/model ranges of each type of gear which are affected.
>>> >
>>> > 2) Restart of the module seems to clear the issue. For PacketFlux
>>> gear, anyone with a SiteMonitor or RackInjector should be able to do this
>>> remotely. In the SiteMonitor, the row on the binary tab is labeled
>>> something like 'SyncPipe power'. There might be multiple rows depending on
>>> how many SyncInjector/PowerInjectors you have - this corresponds to the
>>> power port on each injector, so you'll have to turn off the row which is
>>> for the unit which the GPS receiver is attached to. In the RackInjector,
>>> it's a bit simpler since it's just a button on the GPS page.
>>> >
>>> > 3) I'm currently working through trying to find anyone who really
>>> knows what went on here. None of the usual notification locations seem to
>>> have any data. Probably too early to tell. I might luck out and be able to
>>> get a GPS constellation recording I can replay here to replicate.
>>> >
>>> > One thing which might be helpful is for those of you who log this
>>> stuff, if you can provide a pretty close UTC time that this occurred, along
>>> with the approximate LAT/LONG, I might be able to correlate this with a
>>> specific event.
>>> >
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